NBA DFS Podcast January 2: Top DraftKings & FanDuel Plays

Speaker 0 00:00:00 What's going on? F FA Nation? Jonathan Mehi with James Grande. Welcome into the fan alarm, N B a Df s podcast and livestream recording here for Monday's 10. Game main slate. Uh, James, hope you had a good new year. It's, uh, now January 2nd, kicking off the year hopefully on a good note here. We 10 games on a Monday. Speaker 1 00:00:17 Yeah, nice little 10 game slate. Um, lots to look forward to. Some interesting totals, some interesting spreads. Um, some teams on a back to back, and I think by that I mean just one. Denver. I think Denver's the only team on a back to back. Um, looking over the slate, uh, hopefully there's no broken rims in that, uh, in that game. Uh, we saw Rob Williams shatter a rim yesterday. Um, she'll shout out to, to Rob Williams. Um, but yeah, it should be a fun slate. Finally, get Luka Don Price semi appropriately, right? The price is on the rise. Never thought you'd get Speaker 0 00:00:54 I get to Houston team that he is gone for 80 and <laugh>, but each of the last two games. So, I Speaker 1 00:00:58 Mean, it just, at this point, I, I told you the other day and you were like, no, Luca on the road, and there's just no such thing. It's just Luca right now. It's Speaker 0 00:01:05 Season 82, 1 10, 81 85. It was four of us last five. So Speaker 1 00:01:09 Yeah, I mean, it's just, uh, he is on a different planet, but then you have Yoki who probably scores 90 last night if that game, you know, stays slightly more competitive. I think he was outta hand, uh, a little bit, um, late and bead in a great spot. I mean, there's a lot of star power here. Still some guys out, um, still some guys in the injury report. Good to see Jimmy Ball, Eli Probable, you know, heat, heat injury report, uh, taking steps in the right direction. Usually they're just all listed questionable, so, yeah. Uh, interesting. Slate to, to kick off the week. John. I, I looked at the schedule last week was a dream scenario, right? It was like six to or five to nine games every single slate. Yeah. Sunday being the exception. Speaker 0 00:01:53 Not Speaker 1 00:01:53 This week, but now it's 10, it's three, it's 11, it's three. It's, it's, again, why do we do this to ourselves? Why can't every slate be balanced? Why do we have to have back to back? Star stars are gonna sit because of this. It's a nightmare. But we, we deal with the hand that we're dealt. Um, 10 games on Monday. Let's ride. Speaker 0 00:02:09 Yep, I'm with you here. Let's go point guard position again, don't really need to spend time talking to Luca. 12 four. Need to get five x out of 'em. That's 62 fantasy points. The guys in scoring 20 more points than that. Um, forward to the last five. Uh, certainly can, can roll him out there. Uh, James Hartman's at ten one. We talked about it, you know, Maxie back here. Is there gonna be an impact to him? Uh, only 36 fans points in that game. The one thing we did mention, the the assists are gonna be there still, uh, but we just can't pay 10 K as long as Maxie is gonna be active. And I imagine Maxie is gonna be playing in the scheme here, right? Speaker 1 00:02:45 Um, I do not believe he's Speaker 0 00:02:47 Not on the destination on him, so, uh, can't go there. Uh, we got ball versus Lakers as a matchup. We just recently saw he went for 51 fantasy points. Uh, he is also at $10,000. Trey Young's at 99 Lillard, 98, Halliburton 93. Uh, we'll stop there. If we're talking about the top tier guys, not counting, Luca obviously hardened to Halliburton. Uh, how are you rating them? Speaker 1 00:03:10 Harden You just, if you're multi entering, like put 'em in one lineup. Uh, and it's multiple lamps like mm, eing uh, hardened for tournaments. Uh, definitely harder to trust. Love La Melo. Um, solid spot against the Lakers. Trey Young. We, we talk about this a lot. It's just, he's just not, we saw a couple games where there was a ceiling and, but we needed 37 and 13 to get there. He really doesn't do anything else. Like he, yeah, he's averaging just under steel and three rebounds, but we're lucky to get either of those. So I, I think I'm out on Trey. I know it's a, you know, a good spot. I'd rather play Lillard 90 98. Um, yeah, it's a great spot. Great spot against Troy. They're still without killing Hayes. Um, they are foul happy. They play no defense. Their 29th in defensive rating this year. Um, only, only worst defensive unit is dispersed Lillard coming off 34 actual, he's done that in two of three. So love Lillard and dude, Halliburton has been killing teams. Yeah. Um, very, very solid play. I know Toronto is good defensively. Um, yeah, Speaker 0 00:04:17 They're a tough, they're a tough team for a lot of guards for sure. Speaker 1 00:04:20 Um, maybe, maybe, maybe if Van sits we have a little more interest there. Yeah. Um, van listed, Speaker 0 00:04:26 Questionable. Yep, I'm with you there. Lillard of my go, I go Ball Lillard is my one two in that group. Same, um, if we're, if we're ranking them out, uh, eight AK range here. Uh, Kyrie Irving, Desante, Murray, CJ mc column, Jordan Pool, um, you've been in on Kyrie Irving for a little bit now. Um, really consistent production. 40 or more now in are 50 or or more now in three, sorry, 40 or more in four of the last five games here. Um, even, even stretching that even further. The guy's just been really strong play. Uh, does San Antonio matchup, where are you for a blowout here though? Speaker 1 00:05:02 Yeah, I was looking at the spread. It's 12 and a half. Yeah. So very nerve-wracking. Um, look, if Kyrie, I, if San Antonio can somehow keep this game close, uh, let's see, what is Devin Bell's status? Devel is questionable. So I mean if Devin Bael plays like obviously we think San Antonio can keep it a little closer than maybe 12 and a half. Um, I like Kyrie, it's just tournaments only, just considering he might only play three quarters. Sure. I'm trying to see though, like he played 35 minutes and an 18 point win against Milwaukee. Uh, Speaker 0 00:05:36 He played 33 against Charlotte and that game they won by 17 Speaker 1 00:05:40 Four, uh, 30. He played 38 in a game versus Portland where he played where they won by 14. So like I agree, they lost by 22 in October to New Orleans. He played 34 minutes. So it seems like he'll play mid thirties regardless. And then if it's competitive he'll play close to 40. Um, still, if it's a 30 point game after three, is Kyrie coming back on the floor? I don't know. So Right. Probably not. Uh, torr probably tournaments only for me. Speaker 0 00:06:08 Okay. Um, pool McCollum thoughts on those guys? <laugh>, you got a ceiling pool game, but I mean like, I don't know if we can rely on that every Speaker 1 00:06:16 Day. I mean it takes, so I think we said it last part. I, I'm fairly certain we said Clay being on the floor helps Jordan Pool cause it's not like the center focus isn't just Jordan Pool, right. And vice versa for Clay. Like he has someone to set him up. Um, and, and it's not just those two guys like on the floor. Um, I think pool is fine. Um, not really love. I'm not really in love with the 8,200 price tag. Um, McCullum, same thing. Really tough spot co Uh, we can ignore the four for 16 shooting. That was obviously an anomaly, but yeah, um, there Philly's really good defensive and I know he just scored 42 against them like the other day. Um, but I'm willing to bet that doesn't happen again. You, you know, tournaments only for both of these guys I think. Speaker 0 00:07:07 Okay. Uh, mid tier range here guys in the seven to six K spot. Um, you know, just rattle off a couple that stand out to you. Uh, kind of given their matchups here. Speaker 1 00:07:17 Um, I mean kb j kb j has been really good lately. Yeah, three of us last four over 40 fancy points. Uh, obviously the one down game was against Dallas and I think that's something that we do have to factor in here cuz Dallas is a slow-paced snail team. Luca is better defensively than I think a lot of people give him credit for. Um, he Kim port, but 36 fantasy points per game against Dallas. This here. So you can go there. I think Westbrook is in play. He's been pretty good lately, man. Um, 33 plus fantasy points and three straight. But the games that he has a double or triple double in 43 and 53 fantasy points, he's still gonna be the second option behind LeBron. They don't really have anybody else. Um, rest of the mid tier not getting to Maxi at least until we see more minutes. 19 is returned, then he sits out. Can't get there. Uh, Delo is interesting. I've mentioned all year. Denver's defense is not, they've been a little better lately. Um, can't get there. Interesting to see if Jamal Murray plays because he sat out the last three games. Um, but yesterday was a, yesterday was a back to back, so, um, Speaker 1 00:08:30 Maybe Jamal Murray if he plays. Um, and that's it for the seven K tier. Interesting to see Garland. Doubtful. So we're gonna see another point. Donovan Mitchell game. Yeah. Uh, for Speaker 0 00:08:40 Cleveland. Yeah, no, I mean that's, that's definitely the one to watch, right? I mean as long as I don't play 'em, everybody will have a good, uh, a good Donovan Mitchell Speaker 1 00:08:48 Game that that needs to be. Um, we need to know what you're doing. Speaker 0 00:08:53 I'll, I'll bite the bullet here for, for the fa family here and not play Donovan Mitchell. Um, I put my lineup, I put my lineup in our chat the other day, uh, in Discord here. Everything about that lineup was money. I played a 0.8% hemo, diallo go for 10 x and yet I played Donovan Mitchell, who's Snowflake is the only snowflake of that lineup. Um, a another, another day of what could have been here had I, you know, played anybody that was any good at all instead of Donovan Mitchell that night. Um, <laugh> Speaker 1 00:09:23 Anybody that was any good. Uh, Speaker 0 00:09:25 I just like can't, I just can't get him. I just can't play him. Correct. I mean, Speaker 1 00:09:29 Yeah, he's tough. Speaker 0 00:09:30 I miss all six of his three pointers. Like I just, I don't know, I don't know. 32 fantasy points. It should have been a great spot for him. Uh, anyways, uh, yeah, that's fine. Value plays here on the slate. I mean, Jayden Ivy at 55, you know, in no Killian Hayes we've talked about. Um, we only played 19 or 20 minutes there against Minnesota. Um, we've seen upside, but you know, the minutes are kind, were weird there. Speaker 1 00:09:56 Well back to back to back and he looked awful. Yeah, A lot of turnovers, no shots. And then they did the same thing with Jalen Duran. Yeah. They pulled both the rookies and Marvin Bagley went crazy and Corey, Joseph looked good so Speaker 0 00:10:08 Right. Cuz you had, you had Duran in your lineup that day. Speaker 1 00:10:11 Duran had, yeah. The worst game of all time. Yeah, yeah, sure. Speaker 0 00:10:14 Yeah. Uh, Mars out again, maybe on the back to back. They do bench some guys too, like, uh, Bruce Brown was just coming back from an injury and all that. You got Bones Highland at 52. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, um, Alec Burkes, any, any appeal here? I mean keeps on making shots. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:10:29 For the most part. Um, yeah, we're gonna have to keep playing them. Um, I told you like I didn't think efficiency could continue and it didn't, but he still had then he, he's like, you know what, let me just grab seven rebounds and two assists on a block to make up for my court shooting. So, uh, if he's gonna continue to be this productive look, they're going to be the games where he get 22 minutes like we did against Chicago, but there's no killing Hayes space. So, uh, we could see another peak performance from Alex Martins. Speaker 0 00:10:56 Not that we're gonna play, but who does Gary Peyton impact for Portland? Cuz he is listed as available for Monday's game season debut for Gary Peyton here. Speaker 1 00:11:03 Love that. Cuz I think Portland is gonna really benefit from Gary Peyton being back. Uh, I think he's gonna cut into Simon's. I think, um, that's probably the primary what he's gonna play backup point guard. Yeah. And he's probably gonna play backup shooting guard. We're probably just gonna get like Keon Johnson fully out of their rotation and it's just like Simon's minutes instead of 35 go to what? 30 and Lillard's minutes instead of 30 minutes. Speaker 0 00:11:32 Maybe Josh Hart get cut or Josh Hart will shift at times a small forward, right? Speaker 1 00:11:36 Yeah. Yeah. Well especially like, I don't know if Josh Hart will get cut that much cuz winslow's out. True and Nair Little is out. Like they're missing a bunch of guys in on the Wing to begin with. So I think Josh Hart's pretty safe. I just think Gary Peyton will spell Lillard and Simon's to start the year and then maybe we're talking about that later. Yeah. Where it's like Hart's minutes are getting cut, but right now I feel like Hart's needed. So, uh, it's a good point to that Hart Peyton is back cuz they signed him to a pretty solid deal and he was super good with Golden State last year. Yeah. So. Yep. Um, definitely, definitely a a good point to make Speaker 0 00:12:12 There. Uh, shooting, shooting guard here. Uh, Speaker 1 00:12:14 Well are we, are we Speaker 0 00:12:16 All right? You got a point guard? Got a point guard? Same out? Speaker 1 00:12:19 I don't know, I just wasn't, um, nah, I think we're good. Okay. Shooting guard now. Okay. Flynn. Kay Flynn maybe. Sure. Speaker 0 00:12:27 Maybe Speaker 1 00:12:27 There's no, maybe, maybe if there's Speaker 0 00:12:29 Okay athlete, uh, Anthony Edwards 95. Um, Paul George, you know, why is Paul George 86? Speaker 1 00:12:36 Kind 45 Actual, Speaker 0 00:12:38 But we, I know it's Miami. Look at these. I mean they just went on a si was it six game road trip and now they're back home. Yeah. Five game road trip. Now they're back home. I mean I, again, it's Miami, you went for 52 against them. I don't know what version of Miami that was, uh, in Miami there, <laugh>, but um, I mean that's too cheap for Paul George. Speaker 1 00:12:57 Yep, sure. Speaker 0 00:12:59 Definitely too cheap for Paul George. Um, Zach Levine, 7,400 back to where we like him, that comes off a 60 fancy point game and then struggles again. A tough spot against Cleveland. Does have Cleveland here again. Uh, but 7,400 bucks this time. Speaker 1 00:13:12 Yeah, I mean that, the problem is Cleveland is so good defensively that I typically don't play guys against them. Um, we have status on Mobley too. Moby's questionable. Um, so no less protection at the rim. Obviously if Moby's out, I don't know. I could get there. You just play, play. It's Speaker 0 00:13:34 Good price. You just like Clay. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:13:35 I, yeah, I mean like Clay's just been really Speaker 0 00:13:38 Good, dude. I mean Clay's, clay's borderline the, the same as Levels Levine where we've just been yelling like he is, he's more valuable than his price right now. Like play him. Speaker 1 00:13:45 Yep. Especially with, and, and Clay scoring has even been more consistent. Yeah. At least, at least of last week, right. Of last week. Clay's scoring has been very consistent. 24, 29, 31 and then 42 plus fantasy points in all three of those games. And his price has not wavered at all. So, um, against Atlanta at home, I, I kind of Clay averaging 21 at home, he's shooting a better percentage from the floor. More fantasy points like Yeah. I think I'd rather just play Clay in an easier Speaker 0 00:14:16 Spot. Yep. I'm with you there. Um, I missed, I missed the Terry Roser that was taking 30 shots a game. He's just, he doesn't exist anymore with Speaker 1 00:14:23 Him. Yeah. Nah, he's dead. Speaker 0 00:14:24 Everybody's there. Uh, Jalen Green's got a tough matchup we mentioned Simon's. Um, you can always play Dinwitty. 6,600 Ty is not bad, but it's just, if Luca goes off then nobody's taking shots. Yeah. So, yep. Speaker 1 00:14:35 I, that's how I feel about OG too. Yeah. Like you can always play OG at this price. Speaker 0 00:14:39 Yep. Yep. Uh, Bogdan take shots there against Holden State. Speaker 1 00:14:44 Um, yeah, they're like, when they're fully sh healthy, I don't love Bogdan over six K because I don't know what the upside is. Sure. But, um, he seemingly has a good floor. Speaker 0 00:14:58 Okay. Uh, buddy healed really on a good run right now. D D V playing really well. Uh, and that's starting line up there. 30 plus minutes for him pretty consistently. Uh, Speaker 1 00:15:08 Yeah. Plug both. Speaker 0 00:15:09 Yep. Uh, Tim Hardy Jr had some good games there, uh, last time out against Houston had 18 actual in that game against them. So always a tournament play can just get out there and, and start firing in this mid-tier, so. Yep. Um, Gary Trent, if it leads out right, that's Speaker 1 00:15:23 The guy. Yep. Yeah. Uh, I feel like the price increase should have been way more substantial than this. I know like there's the potential for Van Fleet to be out or to be back, but like, even so like you just gotta, you gotta bump him to like the 57 58 that we saw him earlier. Because if Van fleet's out, this is just a free square and it's a, it's a great matchup. He is a very street shooter. We said it, I think we said it every podcast. It's like when he's streaking you play him. Well Speaker 0 00:15:54 We weren't even sure what the rotation for nurse was going to even be like cuz he hadn't been starting and we were just like, oh, he doesn't start, he can play anywhere from 10 minutes to 40 minutes. Right. Like it just, you don't know. So. Speaker 1 00:16:05 Yeah. Um, I don't know. It's just hard for me to not, if family fleets out, like with the way he's playing, like I think he just got Speaker 0 00:16:12 Playing. Uh, you mentioned Pat Besman playing more minutes lately. He's been giving you 20 plus fantasy points at 41. Um, let's see here. Anybody else for you? Any, any other value shooting guards? Speaker 1 00:16:28 Um, I Speaker 0 00:16:29 Mean do you mention, do you go to Diallo again 24 minutes against Minnesota there? 34 fancy points Speaker 1 00:16:35 You could in that game? Could Yeah, you could. Um, there was foul trouble who got in foul trouble and then Diallo, Speaker 0 00:16:40 He's like, I mean he's just always in a crazy fancy point for me guy. Anyways, I mean some of these were blowouts obviously, but like 10 minutes, 18 fantasy points, 16 minutes, 18 fantasy points, 14 minutes, 19 fantasy points and plays 24 minutes against Minnesota and gets 34 fancy points. Um, Speaker 1 00:16:56 I just, I I like, I don't disagree in any facet cuz he you're a hundred percent correct. I just like if he's, I don't wanna play him if he's playing 14 minutes, even though he can get me 19 fantasy points, that's fine. Speaker 0 00:17:10 So he played 14 minutes against Orlando in the game that he was ejected in. So he might've been on his way to that's he might've been on his way 20 minutes in that game. Speaker 1 00:17:18 Yeah. He'll make, he'll crack the player pool. He he'll crack the player pool. He's Speaker 0 00:17:22 Just this. And like I said, the 34 fans like that, we know what Amadou Diallo can be. Right. Like we, Speaker 1 00:17:28 Yeah, we've always wanted, he's Speaker 0 00:17:29 One of those guys where we, we just wanted to see on the, on the floor Detroit traded for 'em. Like why are the why? And we thought when they traded for 'em we're like, here we go. Great Speaker 1 00:17:37 Spot. Great spot. Yeah. Great Speaker 0 00:17:39 Spot. Yeah. And then they, they, they don't play 'em. It's like they, it just didn't make any sense. So, um, let's, let's see. Seth Curry is not really doing much. All right. Small forward here. Uh, Katie, is that ten four? Can you paying that against San Antonio? Speaker 1 00:17:54 No. Okay. I say like, I'd just rather play Kyrie for cheaper. LeBron I've been saying it for. Yeah. And LeBron for cheaper. Speaker 0 00:18:02 Who the people, the fact that people didn't play a birthday. LeBron to me is uhs hilarious mean Speaker 1 00:18:08 He actually, I looked back, he actually hadn't played well on his birthday for a couple years. Um, last year he didn't play on his birthday and then the year before he, it like, wasn't great and I was like, ah, maybe the narrative is, and then he'd shut me up mighty quick. Yep. Speaker 0 00:18:21 So I, I'm I I like LeBron a lot. That three, Speaker 1 00:18:24 I mean it's Charl and it's Char due to Charlotte. Yeah. Like Yep. Charlotte so bad. Speaker 0 00:18:29 Uh, tough games for DDR the last two nights for him up to 92. I don't know if you wanna Speaker 1 00:18:33 Yeah. In No, no to Cleveland. No thanks. Speaker 0 00:18:35 Uh, Quai still far too cheap, 81. They're just like slowly raising his price tag, so I'll just keep playing them. Yep, yep. Uh, 8,100 is a really great spot. Do you play Kel at 73? Speaker 1 00:18:45 Um, back to back 30 games for him if a LL is out. Okay. I I, I put it in my playbook, um, on that Dallas game Saturday. It's like, why is Kelvin just so absent everywhere else? He had no assist, no blocks, no steals, four rebounds. Like if he doesn't score 30, he's not even gonna score 30 fantasy points. Yeah. Like it's, um, like that's my problem. Vasel if Vasel off the floor, he has very good numbers, very good usage, a lot of fancy points per minute, but it has to be viel off the floor for me to even consider him. Okay. Because he is not gonna pay off the price tag if, uh, the sells Speaker 0 00:19:24 It. Uh, Jeremy Grants got a little bit of a revenge game there at 73 against the trade there. Sure Speaker 1 00:19:29 Does. Speaker 0 00:19:30 Yep. Uh, absolutely hated being in Detroit. Hated it. He wanted nothing to do with Speaker 1 00:19:33 That. Well he, it's weird cuz he also blocked a trade. He like was he didn't wanna leave. Well he Speaker 0 00:19:40 Wanted, well he wanted to go somewhere where he would be the starter. He didn't want go to the Lakers and be played behind Ad <laugh>. Speaker 1 00:19:45 Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:19:46 Um, yeah, he is, he's a very Speaker 1 00:19:48 He did that, did that in, did that in, uh, o KC didn't wanna do it again. Speaker 0 00:19:51 Yep. Yep. Uh, Scotty Barnes, again, the fan leads out. We can, we can go back to that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, can always play Boon. He just continues to shoot the lights out. 28 45 fancy points against Minnesota there. Um, really should be part of more core lineups. Like guys don't, boon doesn't really ever have like high enough use, uh, ownership percentage it feels like in tournaments. No for no, he, he's for no reason. He's giving you six x almost like every night <laugh>. He's just like, and people just with a ceiling of 45. I mean like he should just be in more lineups. So I'm not necessarily saying Portland's a spot where he goes off and again has a ceiling game, but like he's having one of the best seasons of his career here. So For Speaker 1 00:20:31 Sure for Speaker 0 00:20:31 War Short. Um, updated here we have, uh, Evan Mobley was present at Shootaround also Joel and B uh, down, uh, now is questionable for tonight, so Speaker 1 00:20:40 Ooh. Okay. So maybe back in on the hard end bandwagon. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:20:43 Darius Garland not at Shootaround today as we expected. He's doubtful. So can recording live here? Getting some, some updates, um, on everything that's going on there. Uh, so yeah, maybe if Nobi Harden and, and Maxie certainly become a little bit more appealing if that goes the way it is. Um, all righty. Let's see. Other guys in the mid here we've talked about uh, n PJ's at six K. Any address? Speaker 1 00:21:08 Yeah. Um, he's been good. Other than the Miami game, which again, we've talked about like they're pretty good defensively but the scoring has been more consistent for Michael Porter Jr. Outside of like these random games, I would say because of those random games can happen more of a tournament play, but pretty good price tag on Yep. Speaker 0 00:21:26 Uh, Hayward's at 57. Not a good game the other night against Brooklyn at all. No, but I mean like he's been Okay so at 57 I don't mind, um, kind of running back, running back to that one here. We always talk Bruce Brown, if Jamal MA's out, um, you know, have some decent potential at his price point there. Uh, Kyle Anderson did come back, played 34 minutes for Minnesota. Uh, any interest in Anderson or Jayden McDaniels here? Speaker 1 00:21:51 Um, same Speaker 0 00:21:52 Price point, so Speaker 1 00:21:53 They're fine. Okay. They're last, last piece in type of players. Sure. Speaker 0 00:21:58 Uh, any other value here to Lavert at 48? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:22:02 Yeah, Levert. Um, he was better than I, like I don't expect that to be the case again. Like him to be better than Donovan Mitchell. But he was better than Dono Mitchell. Speaker 0 00:22:11 He's a good player. Speaker 1 00:22:11 Which he is a good player. It's funny cuz he did that earlier in the year with Garland too. Yeah. Remember when Mitchell missed that stretch of games and we we're like, play Garland, play Garland and then it was Levert that was uh, yeah, the key piece. Um, definitely think levers and play not as free as he was the other day, but in play. Uh, TJ Warren, 31 minutes John. Um, it's just the Speaker 0 00:22:31 Season. No, the minutes have been great. You need him to hit shots? Speaker 1 00:22:33 Yeah. Need him to hit shots. But I think we probably see extended run in any scenario tonight. Like keep giving TJ Warren extra time. Like even in a blowout. I feel like he might get some run just cuz he just needs, he hasn't been on the floor. Speaker 0 00:22:47 What is their ideal starting lineup now? Is it Irving? Um, Simmons. Warren Durant. Clarkston. Like is that their, is that their Yeah, Speaker 1 00:22:56 I guess it depends cuz like do you want like the spacing? If you want spacing you go with Joe Harris and if you want like, well Speaker 0 00:23:03 Warren provide spacing he can shoot from, from me. He, Speaker 1 00:23:06 He can, but he can't. He's not Joe Harris for me. No, I mean, he's not shooting Joe. Right. You know, um, Warren is definitely the mid-range. God. Like if Warren Speaker 0 00:23:16 In the mid-range. Does do we, do we have, do we, is he on their closing lineup? Do we know? Speaker 1 00:23:20 Um, let's look at, Speaker 0 00:23:22 Uh, I guess it would be hard to tell cause they won by a, did they win by a blowout? Right? So Speaker 1 00:23:26 I think they played, yeah, I think they did not close with, let's see, so Kevin Durant did not close the game. TJ Warren. Yeah, it was Warren. Warren played the final 18 minutes of the game. Speaker 0 00:23:45 What? Speaker 1 00:23:45 Yeah, he played, he checked in at six minutes in the third and never came Speaker 0 00:23:50 Off the floor. Never came off the floor. Geez. No. So I don't even know what to think about then. Right? Yeah. When did, when did Katie and Irving and all them check out? Speaker 1 00:23:56 They checked out with three minutes left. Speaker 0 00:23:58 Okay, Speaker 1 00:23:59 So they played a good portion. Yeah, they played nine minutes essentially together. All right. Um, well, Durant okay, it weird. Durant didn't play the fourth, um, but he like Durant does that shift where he plays entire first, entire third? Yeah. Um, and Kyrie early subs, Kyrie played nine minutes. Clason played nine minutes. Um, so he played partially with the starters, partially with the bench. Um, Simmons and Durant never saw the floor on the fourth quarter. Okay. So very un we have no answers. Speaker 0 00:24:35 <laugh> Speaker 1 00:24:35 Essentially no Speaker 0 00:24:37 Answers from that information. Yeah, Speaker 1 00:24:38 Essentially no Speaker 0 00:24:39 Answers. Still still willing to play 'em, still willing to play 'em at 43. Uh, anybody else here for you? Speaker 1 00:24:46 Um, I know Austin Reeves has been really bad. Yeah, but he went one of 13 from the floor. Lonnie Walker I believe is questionable. Yeah, he is probable he's pro probable to play. So maybe not on Reeves as much. So, okay. Uh, I don't think there's, I wonder if Eric Gordon just never plays again. Did you see his, uh, his comments after the game? He, they asked him how they're, how does he feel they're improving since the start of the year and he just said we're not <laugh> and then didn't and then didn't say anything else. I wonder if he never plays again. Uh, like if KJ Martin were to draw a start here or there would be a little interest or cuz uh, you know, just setting Gordon to the moon. But no, I don't say anything else. Speaker 0 00:25:25 No. What's crazy means that Krista Warte doesn't play anymore after having like a really good rookie year. Like, Speaker 1 00:25:29 Just like Yeah, just, yeah. Speaker 0 00:25:30 Doesn't even, doesn't, doesn't even get on the floor. Doesn't Speaker 1 00:25:32 Play. I mean, dude, they're winning games. Like I Speaker 0 00:25:34 Know, it's just crazy. It's weird. He doesn't, the guys are really good rookies. Like a Speaker 1 00:25:38 First round pick, first round, first round pick and Speaker 0 00:25:39 First round pick. Great rookie year doesn't even, doesn't even play for them anymore. Just doesn't, doesn't Speaker 1 00:25:43 Sense the floor. Speaker 0 00:25:44 Um, power forward here, uh, sees at ten two again, I feel like every slate I say like we should be playing more Sicca and then like I don't, um, tough spot against Phoenix. We played 41 minutes. He least 40 minutes a night. The Pacers feels like a a, a good matchup for, uh, SICOM here. So I, I like ten two Pascal Sicca. Speaker 1 00:26:05 Yeah. And I like obviously I think we want Van bla to be off the floor to pay 10 to sicu. Speaker 0 00:26:13 Oh, he's been playing well what's, he had a 76 phase point game with Van Bleed. Sure. So Speaker 1 00:26:17 Sure. I'm just 1.4 fantasy points per minute, 31% usage rate. Sure. Without the fev. So just, you know, I, I'm not saying he can't get there, but just like improves his stock. I think if F Fe's on the floor, Speaker 0 00:26:33 Uh, are you paying 97 for Zion? Speaker 1 00:26:35 No, I've been, I've told you I haven't paid this price in a, in a while for Zion. Don't think it's gonna start now. Um, I know Ingram's still out and stuff, but I, I guess maybe my tune would change if there's no mb. Okay. But I think MB protecting the rim, um, is a pretty big deal. Speaker 0 00:26:51 Yep. Um, Christian Woods at ak, he's doing really good lately. 40. He's been already fantasy and back to back games gets Speaker 1 00:26:58 Houston, dude, he did and he did this in 21 minutes against Houston the other day. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:27:03 Yep. Yep. Speaker 1 00:27:04 Luco, Luco did a postgame interview about how much he likes Christian Wood being in the starting lineup. So like, you know how that goes Speaker 0 00:27:12 <laugh>. Yeah, yeah, Speaker 1 00:27:12 Exactly. I mean it's like, hey Star player saying something like, let's do that thing. Speaker 0 00:27:16 Yep. Yep. Uh, Toby, if there's no ibe, maybe at 67, uh, Aaron Gordon had a really good game last night, but I don't know if we can chase that one or not. Speaker 1 00:27:25 He's having a really good year. Yeah, right, right. Aaron Gordon, he's, Speaker 0 00:27:28 He a good year consistent, but he's had some high ceilings so, um, let's see here. I mean, Simmons played 34 minutes then played 25 and 19. So like, I don't know what to do with that. Yeah, the s a really good price tag. It's a really good price tag. Speaker 1 00:27:41 Yeah, it is a really good price tag. But if it's a blowout we're they're clearly not keeping him on the floor. Speaker 0 00:27:46 Right. Right. Uh, John Collins followed out in 23 minutes against the Lakers but had been really good before that against Golden and stayed here at 58. I like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I like with no Capella. Speaker 1 00:27:57 PJ Washington's been pretty good dude. Other than the last game, like three of his last five, he's gone for 38 or more fancy coins. Gpp. But like this spot is kind of elite. He put up 45 fancy points against them, um, when they face off. So, uh, I don't hate PJ Washington at that same price either. Speaker 0 00:28:13 Yeah. Uh, is Gobert in or out of this game? Do we know yet? Speaker 1 00:28:17 He is in in, Speaker 0 00:28:20 He's in, yeah, he played against Detroit. He played 28 minutes and Nas Reed only played 24 in that game. So tough to, tough to go back to Naz. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, Sohan Sohan though has been, continues to be really good. Um, I don't mind him against Brooklyn here. Speaker 1 00:28:34 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, did you see the shooting, the free throw shooting thing that he's done? No, he stopped shooting two-handed free throws. He's, and he was shooting 45% with two hands. So he is been shooting with one hand. Speaker 0 00:28:46 He's a Speaker 1 00:28:46 Bit better. Uh, and he's like at 75% Speaker 0 00:28:48 Good. Need it. Need, need. Speaker 1 00:28:50 Jeremy, Jeremy one hand Jeremy. One hand. That's one hand. Speaker 0 00:28:53 One hunt knee. Guys making freezers here for sure. Sure. Uh, let's see. Jabari, eh, Speaker 1 00:28:59 Tournaments. Tough Speaker 0 00:29:01 Spot. Tough spot in the back to back. All these guys played limited minutes on this back to back here from Detroit now. Really threw off that rotation. I Speaker 1 00:29:09 Don't know. Yeah. Bag. It was bagly, Bagly dominated. Speaker 0 00:29:13 Uh, love probably doesn't start again cuz Mobley was back at practice today, so. Speaker 1 00:29:18 Yep. Speaker 0 00:29:19 Can't chase that one. Any other value, power forwards for you? Speaker 1 00:29:24 I don't hate Marcus Morris. Uh, he's been a little bit more productive lately. Um, if platoon's out, I think Marcus Morris will play a little extra, like continue to get that 28 to 30 minutes. Yeah. Maybe even more. Um, other than that I don't see a reason to really maybe chatty. Speaker 0 00:29:44 Yeah. Ty Easton got 24 minutes and that blow out. Lost the Knicks and put up 33 fantasy points. Just can we get, just get some more tardy Speaker 1 00:29:51 <laugh>? There was no, there was no Shingu in that game. Just also so that could, but I, I agree on the, I agree on the tar in front, but no Shingon, I who, let's see. Uh, I think list is questionable. Yeah, it's questionable. So maybe we do get a little tar eon. Yeah, Speaker 0 00:30:07 We'll see. We'll see what happens. Again, it was a blowout so, um, okay. Anything is possible there. All right. Center spot here. Yoko's at 11 seven. Again Jojo's now questionable to play tonight. He's at 11 three. Both of those guys obviously, uh, in really great spots. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, next tier of guys, like thoughts on Bam, VVI, Gobert, anybody like really jumping out to you here? Speaker 1 00:30:31 Um, I like BA's production. I don't know what his upside is at 89. Uh, especially with Butler listed Probable, uh, VVI ni I mean he's fine right? He is what he is for Chicago. It is what it is. <laugh>. Yeah, verti Gobert is already in foul trouble. Maybe that does <laugh>, right? Maybe that does play in Nas Reed's hand. Maybe Speaker 0 00:30:50 We Norcos being questionable. I guess that would put what Drew Eubanks in play. Speaker 1 00:30:53 Yeah, Eubanks play started the other day. Um, him and um, Trendon, Watford like split, like Eubanks played 31 minutes. Watford played a bunch of times so, um, Eubanks played 31, so. Okay. Well obviously obviously Speaker 0 00:31:10 Miles. Miles Turner really playing some good basketball right now. Speaker 1 00:31:12 Yeah, yeah. Speaker 0 00:31:14 6,400 against Toronto. Speaker 1 00:31:16 It's just so funny to me. Like Carlisle is so funny dude. Like why Miles Turner is like why Milestone like wasn't playing and then he's suddenly now playing 34 minutes. Like why, what do we do? Like what does he do that he, I don't know. Um, all I know is Nick Clarkson is Klaxon Speaker 0 00:31:32 Got 12 blocks last two games. Speaker 1 00:31:34 He's a freaking monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:31:37 Yeah. Uh, Plumley one of his best games of the season the other day. Uh, 22 and 10. Uh, I don't think we get 22 and 10 Speaker 1 00:31:44 Aliens, <laugh> aliens first. First and only 20 point game of the year. Speaker 0 00:31:48 Yeah. But just, uh, you know, solid 30 fantasy points probably outta him here. Uh, Thomas Bryant against Atlanta went off for 46. Again, opposite side of that matchup, uh, can play either center or final. Speaker 1 00:31:58 He's gonna be the Chalk, right? Thomas Bryant? Is that the chalk again? Charlotte? Speaker 0 00:32:02 Possibly. I mean, Yaka Purs played 29 and 30 minutes last two games. Sure. Um, you know, like, like seeing the minutes up on Pur here. So Tim, uh, you know, good price tag on him for sure. Um, Aku played 42 minutes and you know, cuz of the foul load from Collins, but last two games, 37 and 43 minutes for him. Um, really good numbers for, for Ange Agon quo here. Speaker 1 00:32:26 Yeah. Center again, I think this mid-range center is where we're gonna live. Um, from Clarkston to Plumley to Brian. Willing Speaker 0 00:32:34 To go back with Duran, I imagine. Speaker 1 00:32:36 Yeah, a few banks is starting for sure. Speaker 0 00:32:41 Again, just a weird back to back situation with Detroit. Horrible. Their entire lineup basically played limited Minutes. Bay didn't play a lot like, um, you know, none tough to really gauge that. So I'm willing just to trust that they all go back to playing their usual Yep. Uh, rotation there. I also like Kevin Looney again, I'll just always mention the rebounds are, are really good for Looney. So Speaker 1 00:33:01 He's good at, he's a good passer too. Um, I know the only two assist last game, but he's had like so many games this year with like four or five sis. Speaker 0 00:33:09 Uh, you mentioned Bagley, I don't know if we can trust him to play 29 minutes again, but, you know, dark can play if no and B though Mark Trel probably gets to play here. Speaker 1 00:33:18 Yep. And we've again, it's like we've seen this, we've seen this song and dance. Yep. Harold's gonna start and then we see what happens. Cause him and Paul Reid might both bite 24 minutes. Paul Reid's gonna come in, have like four blocks and steals and like, so it's just something to consider. Like we know what happens. But if Paul Reeds starts, I am probably out on Harold and I think it's, it's the same scenario as it was earlier in the year. Yep. Speaker 0 00:33:48 Uh, imagine Eubank said 35. Would you play Mark Williams at 35? Speaker 1 00:33:52 Yeah, I think, um, the Williams drummed, they're just like in the same category for me always. It's like they can have 30 fantasy points at men's salary because they're just a monster when they get on the floor. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> at times. So they're just a, they're a last piece in tournament Dart. Nothing more Eubanks is the safer option for sure. Um, but if you wanna play a cheap center that could come on the floor and like just, I mean they drafted Mark Williams, like he was their, you know Yeah. Speaker 0 00:34:23 They traded for Mark Williams, right? Or was he the one they drafted? Remember they they traded for a center or they drafted a center? It was one of the two, Speaker 1 00:34:30 Um, Mark Williams I think they drafted. Speaker 0 00:34:32 Okay. Because there was like a weird trade flip thing that happened. And then Speaker 1 00:34:37 He was the 15th. He was the 15th overall pick. Okay. Um, let's, Speaker 0 00:34:44 Because it wasn't, no, Kembo wasn't part of that trade, right? That was Speaker 1 00:34:48 A, the, the center trade was the Walker Kessler deal. Okay. With Gobert. Um, I don't know if, uh, Walker Kessler, um, so the Hornets traded Jalen Speaker 0 00:35:01 Duran. Okay. That's what it was. They drafted Jaylen Duran and then traded Jalen Duran and then Speaker 1 00:35:06 Drafted. They drafted Mark Williams. Yep. Duran went 13 and was traded and then they took Williams Speaker 0 00:35:11 To Okay. I was, I knew something like that happened with that, with those traits. So. All right. So that's our breakdown here. We're building our lineups. Who's our top guy that we're throwing in here? What's the, what's the ones Speaker 1 00:35:21 Span? Mm. That's let's Speaker 0 00:35:23 Thinking is is it 12,004 Ludon trick? Is that Speaker 1 00:35:26 What we're at? Mm. Let's take a look. Uh, let's look at the board. Um, Speaker 0 00:35:30 <laugh>, are we gonna spend the, we got it own for hundred fancy points every day. Speaker 1 00:35:33 Yeah, I think, uh, I think that's fair. Okay. Uh, I think we, should I immediately pivot to like center and like, cuz use one of these one or two of these mid-tier guys. Okay. Speaker 0 00:35:45 Um, Speaker 1 00:35:45 Like Thomas Bryant or Goku or Claton or Plumley. Like I love that. I love that tear. Sorry. Speaker 0 00:35:56 Uh, let's see here. Um, b ba bu yeah, we, no, Brian made Brian v Charlotte Speaker 1 00:36:03 For Charlotte. I mean Tom Thomas. Brian has the Brian Speaker 0 00:36:06 V Charlotte, Speaker 1 00:36:06 Brian Ver C is the creme de cru Speaker 0 00:36:08 Two. Uh, yeah, that's fine. Um, Speaker 1 00:36:12 You have Alec Burkes as a value play. Speaker 0 00:36:15 We had uh, did you wanna go TJ Warren? Speaker 1 00:36:18 We have TJ Warren as a value play. I'll throw Warren in there for now. Hey, I think if we did learn anything about Warren, he played the fir the li the final 18 minutes. So if this game gets outta hand again, I think they're just giving him minutes because they need to get him minutes. Right. Like they, they need him to get back up to full strength. So we did learn anything. TJ Warren may also close in competitive games, but he closed a game with the subs as well. Speaker 0 00:36:43 That's true. That is true. Um, he is shooting guard only. Shooting guard only. Okay. So I got Clay. Speaker 1 00:36:52 Mm-hmm <affirmative>, um, um, maybe Alec Burkes at the guard spot if you wanna play a cheap guy like that. We don't have to, but it's, so Speaker 0 00:37:00 I I, I I mean I, I went really punty and played Diallo at 3,200. Speaker 1 00:37:05 Okay, that's fine. I'm fine Speaker 0 00:37:06 With that as well. So if we do Luca Clay, Diallo, Warren Bryant, we have 5,700 for a guard Ford in utility. Um, Speaker 1 00:37:15 Diallo is, where did you have Speaker 0 00:37:17 Him? It is our small forward. Speaker 1 00:37:19 Oh and Warren at Power Forward. Okay. Speaker 0 00:37:20 Yeah. And Clay Thompson's a shooting guard. Speaker 1 00:37:23 Um, 5,700. That's pretty good. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. That's a good tier. Speaker 0 00:37:27 Yep. 5,700. Um, did you like, um, Speaker 1 00:37:34 John, I mean Trent, Trent is the obvious, Trent is the obvious play if, uh, if Van Speaker 0 00:37:41 Is there. Is there an actual, is he just questionable? Is that all Van Speaker 1 00:37:44 Fleet's listening? Yeah, he's questionable. Speaker 0 00:37:45 Um, Levert Speaker 1 00:37:48 Levert with Garland Dopel. Sure, sure. Speaker 0 00:37:50 $6,100 a player for a Ford in Utility. Speaker 1 00:37:53 Do we wanna play Mitchell? Speaker 0 00:37:55 No, I I'm, I I told you you can. I I am staying away from him for you for, for the sake of you all people I'm Speaker 1 00:38:03 Staying. We could also, we could also use Levert at, um, forward if we found a better guard. Yep, I agree. What was the, uh, I, Speaker 0 00:38:11 The, I just look at Utility, it's $6,100 a player. So like we could go John Collins at 58, uh, d D V if 59, uh, if there was other Speaker 1 00:38:20 I like both. I like both those guys. Speaker 0 00:38:22 It's fine. Yeah, I mean if we did go Trent, we'd obviously then have a higher 6K range play. Uh, so hands at 5k and Speaker 1 00:38:30 I was just looking at Sohan as well. What did Sadik Sadik mean? It's Speaker 0 00:38:36 Just, yeah, they played 18 but they, again, they benched everybody in that game. Like everybody played 18 minutes. Uh, um, let's go John Collins, this is a good spot for John Collins, I feel like. Do you disagree or agree? Speaker 1 00:38:47 No, I agree. It's a good spot. Uh, uh, we, what's the so what's the final uh, util spot? Speaker 0 00:38:55 Uh, util spot is gonna be 6,500, Speaker 1 00:39:00 Um, miles Turner. Speaker 0 00:39:04 Oh, we, yeah, so I like, definitely like Miles Turner, Speaker 1 00:39:07 Clarkston 63. Speaker 0 00:39:08 Yeah. Claxton's good against San Antonio. Do you now are we, should we sub out Clay for like a Kawa or Paul George? Speaker 1 00:39:24 I don't know. Um, I feel like Clay's spot is a little better against Atlanta where like, Miami's just gonna slow that game down so much. Um, we could sub out Clay. Speaker 0 00:39:36 I don't know if I like Clay. I was just looking thinking about the value of, of those two players obviously. Um, I think I would go Turner here over, um, Speaker 1 00:39:46 Clarkton. Clarkton. Okay. Turner is more a, uh, I, I won't say that, but Turner is probably in a better game environment. Speaker 0 00:39:54 Is it more of a, cuz he can also get six blocks but he also takes more shots. Speaker 1 00:39:58 So like Yeah and we'll, I mean again, Brooklyn's in the 12 and a half point spread. Yeah, it's not exactly projected to stay close. Speaker 0 00:40:06 Right. Uh, all right, so that's the lineup here. Luca Clay, Diallo, Warren Bryant, Levert Collins and Turner. A hundred dollars left over if you wanted to play around with it. Uh, playbook will be out today by Dylan Clemons. We'll be in the Discord if you have any questions. And James and I will uh, talk to you guys later for Tuesday. Slate.