NBA DFS Podcast December 9: Top DraftKings & FanDuel Plays

Speaker 0 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, you're listening to the Fantasy TF Podcast with those John Pemba and James Grande, Speaker 1 00:00:11 What's going on, F Nation. John and Pepa here with James Grande. Welcome into the Fantasy Alarm, NBA DFS podcast and livestream recording here for Friday's 10. Game main slate. James, love these 10 gamers here. Uh, a big player pool. You know, we, but we have some injury news of guys coming back, some injury news of big players being out. We've already identified some value here, uh, on today's slate, which should be pretty interesting. We have some nice matchups to target as well from a game total perspective today. Speaker 2 00:00:38 Yeah, man, um, Minnesota, Utah. Headlines this Slate 2 35 game total there, Utah giving two points. Gotta think. Lord, that means Larry Marking's gonna play if he, if Utah's favorite, um, in that game cuz they have not been great, uh, without him, even though they won last game. That was a wild game. Um, Indiana Washington, 2 33, total Indiana giving five points against the Bradley Peel list. Washington Wizards, um, 2 28 and a half in Atlanta, Brooklyn, Brooklyn giving seven and a half. Speaker 1 00:01:09 Ben Simmons returned Speaker 2 00:01:11 Today. Ben Simmons returned today. Yes, no Desante Murray in that game for Atlanta. Um, Philly Lakers 2 28 total there. Uh, Lakers getting four and a half on the road. Memphis 2 27 and a half against the Pistons. Memphis giving 10 and a half. The only spread over 10. Uh, Phoenix, new Orleans also 2 28 and a half. Um, every total John over two 20. Love it. Uh, tonight, a lot of points. Only one, only one spread the Memphis Detroit game as previously mentioned. Over 10, everything else within eight, about every spread over two 20. Pretty impressive. Speaker 1 00:01:51 Love it. Let's get into it. Point guard position here. Luka Donk is $13,000. Just crazy. You need 65 fantasy points for five x late night Hammer at home. We've talked about this a lot. James Dallas, a lot better team at home this season than on the road. Uh, Lucas splits home and road there. I think we looked at it the other day as well. 65 fantasy points is what he's averaging at home this season. Uh, he gave us an 88 fantasy point game at home against Golden State, uh, just a few weeks back. So we know it's in this bag. We know it's possible. I don't know man, it's $13,000. It's just so wild to, uh, to Wanda go ahead and pay up for that. But there, there is value on the slate. So like we can get to him today. It's just, I don't know how many people are gonna be willing to go there. Speaker 1 00:02:39 Um, you know, he's far and away the most expensive player. Next one is Gianni in that same matchup, other side, $12,300. You know, we know what he can do. Uh, when it comes to his fantasy production, there is averaging 57 fantasy points a game. He went for 51 earlier this year, um, against, against, uh, Dallas. Uh, Luco went for for 51 as well in that game against Milwaukee. So, uh, I'm never gonna get, I'm never gonna tell you not to play him. I just don't think it's worth spending because the upside, like he has to hit bingo. Yep. For him to be worth the $13,000. Speaker 2 00:03:13 Yeah, I mean I think it's just a situation if you're playing multi lineups, you're multi entering. Sure. You obviously want shares of Luco, right? I mean it's because they're, like you said, like Bingo for him is different than bingo for other people. Correct. Okay. Bingo for him is 80 plus fantasy points, which would you for? Speaker 1 00:03:30 Yep, I agree with you. Uh, so again, a after that, like, I don't know how you feel again, you talked about your John and that game, the 10 points spread, does that bother you at all? A ten six? Speaker 2 00:03:41 Um, Detroit I think has been pretty competitive for the most part. I would say we just wanna limit our exposure to tournaments. That game does blow out. Like you're getting three. Speaker 1 00:03:50 Yeah, he got, he played 30 minutes and there blowout win over OKC and gave you 66. So like he could be the reason to blowout, so yeah. Yeah. But ten, ten six for him. Trey Young by himself against Brooklyn. I don't really love that spot Speaker 2 00:04:02 For him. No. Can I, can I just, can we, can I, yeah, I'm gonna give you numbers and you tell me if that changes your mind. Okay, go ahead. So a hundred, 172 minute sample mm-hmm. <affirmative> without Desante, Murray and John Collins, 45.6% usage rate, 1.58 fantasy points per Speaker 1 00:04:20 Minute. So it's a lot. Speaker 2 00:04:22 <laugh>, Speaker 1 00:04:22 I just don't know about the game for them. Right. I mean, Speaker 2 00:04:26 I mean if he well, if he's going off, they're like, he could single-handedly keep them in this game. Speaker 1 00:04:32 Yes. He hasn't. He has struggled lately. Right. Sure. Dying for 26 for 19, the last two games shooting, Speaker 2 00:04:39 Fighting with his co fighting with his coach. Right, Speaker 1 00:04:41 Right, right. All that stuff. Um, I I don't if you're game stacking probably again, I just don't think I'm gonna get to Trey Young at ten three. That's fine. Um, I, cuz I, I mean I played him the last two slates <laugh> like, you know, I know you can't have those biases, but like I was like, oh great Trey young spot here and like he is done. Nothing. I'm not saying this doesn't feel like a good Trey, young Swatton, maybe he goes off. So, um, but like I'm ra I'd rather play Halliburton in 92. Uh, James Harden E nine feels free against the Lakers. Like I know he just came back, he played 38 Speaker 2 00:05:13 Minutes. <laugh>, he was limited. John, he didn't play 48. Speaker 1 00:05:16 Yeah. 38 minutes. Uh, Speaker 2 00:05:18 Unbelievable. I Speaker 1 00:05:19 Know we talked with the Lakers, defense being pretty good there. Um, but I kind of like this just game I'd match up. Right. Philly Lakers feels like a good one. Close spread and James harder for $8,900. There's just upside for him at that price point. Like he can give you a 20 point triple double. Um, so I, I, I definitely like Halliburton and Harden in that spot more than paying the 10 K for the other guys. Um, I probably consider starting my lineups in those spots if Donovan Mitchell doesn't play. We're all in on Garland at 82. Yep. Um, Donovan Mitchell obviously questionable here. Uh, that would, that's just a, a fantastic spot for Garland, um, at that price point there. Um, what are your, what are your thoughts on Drew Holiday? We've been touting him a lot lately. He's been fantastic. Do you like him though? Against Dallas here? Speaker 2 00:06:08 Um, like you can get there. I, I think he is been great. There's no denying that 45 fancy points in four straight games still under ak. It's just a tough matchup. Yeah. Like, um, you know, seven for 16 shooting against them earlier in the year, just 32 fantasy points. I do think Chris Middleton's return has helped him. Like there's just no defense that can stop them. Like they're, they have three weapons at all times. Um, so yeah, I mean, I like holiday. I'm a little upset that you skipped over Ky you know, it's okay. Speaker 1 00:06:40 So, so, but Simmons Speaker 2 00:06:41 Is bad, but Simmons is back. I I know, I know. It stinks. I just, there's just so much upside there. Speaker 1 00:06:46 Yeah. Listen, we've been talking about it, right? Like play him at mid eight, five, play him in the mid five, a mid AKs rather because he has upside and he popped for 60 against Charlotte. If you played him at eight five mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like you're in a, a good spot. It's still a good number. 86 is a good number. And again, I what's the point spur in this game? Did you say it is like seven? Is that what you Speaker 2 00:07:03 Said it was? Yes. Seven and seven and a half. Speaker 1 00:07:05 Yeah. So yeah, listen, if, if Atlanta keeps it close somehow with Trey Young and Capella and I imagine Bog and Boggan probably plays 30 plus minutes tonight, like Yep. You know, then sure, uh, there's gonna be opportunities for ceilings outta some of these guys. But we talk about it like Ben Ben Simmons is on the floor, assuming he's not limited, like the offense is sort of facilitated Sure. Through him. So, um, you know, a little bit, just a little bit down for me on, on on Irving, but good tournament play. I think that's fine. Again, Garland for me, if there's no Mitchell holiday game, we like holiday. We just don't generally like going against Dallas too often cuz they play slow. Um, and, and guys, you know, they don't always have their best performances against them. Um, Minnesota, Utah, we've been talking about how Minnesota plays No defense I think is Conley bad? He's back. So he's listened as questionable for tonight. Speaker 2 00:07:56 They, they had said he's gonna return. They, they already Speaker 1 00:08:00 Stated so Speaker 2 00:08:01 Yep. Section's out and marking's questionable. I believe Speaker 1 00:08:05 So Clarkson's probably still in play then just in general at 73. But it is a high price. It's a high price but Minnesota is a spot that we've been liking to target there. Yep. Um, I don't think I've mentioned Deandre Russell at all this season, but any interest in Deandro Russell given his recent play? Speaker 2 00:08:20 Yeah, we mentioned him last, um, podcast. We circled, I think we circled back to him just because we forgot to mention him because we haven't mentioned him and uh, it hasn't really bit us in the, in the ass very much, but he's been good. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I mean 32 Fantasy points or more in seven straight games. Um, 36 or more and three straight. You don't love to see the 28 minutes truthfully, like that's not great. Um, four Fouls could have been in early foul trouble. Um, but 28, 27 actual points the last two games. Like there's no talents. He's going to have the ball in his hands a lot more now than he did. So Yeah, I, I can get there. This is the highest total on the board. Um, everyone's gonna play Anthony Ru or um, Anthony Russell. Anthony Edwards. Yeah. So, uh, I think Delo is a nice pivot. Speaker 1 00:09:07 Yep. I'm with you there. Uh, I think Bronson is 60 eight's a pretty good spot for him. I know, again, I know recent plays kind of been down a little bit there. Um, but it's a good number. I think anything under seven K for Bronson's worthy of, uh, of looking at. Yep. Speaker 2 00:09:20 Agreed. Speaker 1 00:09:22 Uh, would you go into Chris Paul at 66 Speaker 2 00:09:25 Mm revenge spot but like missed a month exactly a month and then played 24 minutes? I know there was a blow up, but he was apparently going to be limited anyway. Like okay. I don't know. You can, it's a good price, right? Like we know Chris Paul has, Speaker 1 00:09:39 I mean he was a thousand dollars more expensive Yeah. Than most of the year, so, yeah. Speaker 2 00:09:43 Yeah. It's a, it's a good price ultimately. So Speaker 1 00:09:45 What's our total on this one? Do we have one Speaker 2 00:09:47 Total in Phoenix is 2 28 and a half. Okay. Phoenix getting or Phoenix giving two points to the number one seed, uh, new Orleans Speaker 1 00:09:58 Politics. Yeah. Battle for the top. I I, I like Chris Paul a lot there. I think assuming there's, I guess it would depend on how much limitations expected there, but, but Speaker 2 00:10:09 He plays 30 minutes anyway, right? Like he doesn't really, he averages 29 minutes on the No Speaker 1 00:10:13 Starter, played more than 25 minutes for Phoenix cuz they got blown out. So Paul probably would've played the, he didn't play it all the fourth. Like you have to assume he would've gotten some fourth quarter run. Sure. Probably played 30 minutes. So I kind of like Chris Ball at 66. That's a, that's a really good price tag for him. Um, let's see here, where are we going under six K? Who's your guy? I guess obviously if Fox is out like Monk at 54. Yep. Speaker 2 00:10:36 Yep. I mean you keep mentioning you've, you've been a Monte Morris Stan for a while. Yeah. And he continues to deliver. I mean it's not, you know, the price is creeping up, but 33 fantasy points last game. There's no Bradley Beal as we know, so mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, Mark Hill Foltz literally was probably played the worst basketball game of all time. Yeah. Um, last time out. Uh, well Tony Snell has something to say about that I guess, Speaker 1 00:11:04 But he, he did get the 28, uh, 28 minutes at least. Speaker 2 00:11:06 So he did get the 20 minutes and not Speaker 1 00:11:09 A, a good spot against Toronto Speaker 2 00:11:10 Though we don't, not a great spot like that. Um, Noelle continues to just play, I just don't like Yep, Speaker 1 00:11:17 Yep. 20 16, 26 minutes he gets on. Speaker 2 00:11:19 No, there's nothing, there's nothing not to like Speaker 1 00:11:21 He's under 5k. Obviously the price keeps going up, but as long as he is under 5k, Speaker 2 00:11:25 I think he's so he was over 5K on FanDuel last late, um, i's probably over fan 5k fandel again. So, so I'm gonna consider for FanDuel, uh, I I don't love the over 5K price tag, but if he's gonna continue to produce this Speaker 1 00:11:39 One is Yep. I, I'm in agreement with you there. Uh, quickly keeps getting like 25 minutes. So I mean if one of these days he's just gonna pop off mm-hmm. <affirmative> so you can always consider him there. Uh, if Colie doesn't come back, uh, Nikila Alexander Walker plays 29 minutes against Golden State. Speaker 2 00:11:54 I wonder if he got confused. Uh, if they got confused. N a w that it was supposed to be t h t but he put n na w in instead. Like he just got, he mixed up the names cuz Thg didn't play. Speaker 1 00:12:05 Uh, yeah, I, you know what I'm just saying, you know, the guy played 29 minutes and he produced so only five shots. So like, you know, was super efficient obviously, but you know, guys, guys out there playing minutes so. Yep. Uh, anybody else for you at Point Guard? Speaker 2 00:12:24 I mean like sugar's gonna start and play 30 minutes, right? But LeBron and Davis, if everything Yeah, he's been starting, he's been starting, yeah, he's been starting with Beverly Healthy with uh Okay. Speaker 1 00:12:34 So yeah, without those guys. Yeah. But those, the offenses ticked down for him. Speaker 2 00:12:38 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For Speaker 1 00:12:40 Sure. 16 1 0 0 0 0 0. One thing for you there. Uh, alright, let's go to shooting guard here. Um, bookers at 95 don't really like it with, with with Paul back, uh, again, just kind of kill some of the upside. You can play me with tournaments if you want again cuz we know what his upside can be still. But we were getting a lot more mid forties fantasy point production earlier in the year and I weren't really seeing the ceiling. Anthony Edwards is, is the enigma, right? You, you and I were talking about it before we got on the stream. The, uh, 16th steals or 17 steels over the last three games is something that feels, you know, unsustainable but you know, he is still giving you 26, actual 29 actual and five of the last, you know, six games basically. Um, you know, just heavy steel aided. So, you know, if you think you can get seals against Utah tonight, which you probably can, uh, Anthony Edwards is out there being the best player on the floor for Minnesota. So, Speaker 2 00:13:39 Uh, it's just such a, it's just so hard to get away from him, but it's also like so hard to not want to fat him because like you mentioned, it's just un it's just unsustainable. Yeah. Like 15 or 17 steals and three games is just unsustainable. But the still 26, 8 and eight is great and even if it's two steals, which are right around his season average, like that's fine. Um, it's a great spot. It's the best total on the board. Like he's going to be extremely popular. He's been extremely popular every slate right. Because he's gonna take a hundred shots and do everything with towns out. So like sure he's a great cash game player and he's a great tournament play, but just, just be aware that this stretch of steals is going to come to an end. Yeah. And we need the 26 8 8 or better. Right. 30 and eight and eight. Yeah. For, for there to be upside at nine K. That's all I'm saying. Um, I think he's a great play. You could also fade him in tournaments and don't be surprised if he doesn't have six steals, uh, because that's just not normal. Speaker 1 00:14:52 Yeah. Uh, Rossier here another 20 shots as we've been talking about. The guy is going to shoot, he kept Yep. Charlotte in that game against Brooklyn and he gave you 42 fantasy points. He's still $8,000, 48, 36, 44, 42, the last four. So again, good, good play. He is so solid as they come at at ak. Um, you know, definitely has AFL a floor because he can go nine for 20, you know, nine for 25, you know, but um, he gives you a little bit of everything there and, and he scores the basketball. So I don't think anybody's gonna play him against New York tonight, cuz again, there's guys below that I think are a little bit more appealing. Um, so again, tournaments I think he works out, but uh, just the consistency of his performances lately. Put 'em on your radar. Speaker 2 00:15:43 I agree. And I think his teammate is the same in the same boat Ure right? The last two games. Yep. Yep. For a little cheaper. Both of them I think firmly in playing. They're Speaker 1 00:15:53 The two primary offensive players on that sounding unit, right? Yep. So. Yep. Um, a lot, a lot of things run through them there. Uh, buddy heels at 6K 35 fantasy points for him. The guy is, uh, back to the Yep. Uh, under 6k. I'll play 'em for everybody. Heel price <laugh> for you. So, um, got a think he is in play for you against Washington today. Speaker 2 00:16:13 Yep. Yep, sure. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:16:15 Uh, we're, I mean three next, three of the next four guys in DraftKings are all Pacers players. Yeah. Are you playing? Are you not playing any of them? Speaker 2 00:16:24 Uh, I'm probably not playing Nebar. Uh, I think especially with Halbert back, we saw the regression. I know we still took 10 shots and that's fine, but still started, played a bunch of minutes. Probably wouldn't play him. I'd probably rather play mathy. I think there's just a higher ceiling just based on shot attempts in general. Sure. Like 16 shots. 16 shots, 15 shots from Mathy lost three and 16 coming with Halliburton, that last game mm-hmm. <affirmative> whereas like numbered fell off the cliff to 10. So yeah. Um, I would play heeled and I'd play math and I I probably wouldn't play ni Bart Speaker 1 00:16:58 Uh, Beasley Revenge game. Speaker 2 00:17:02 Yeah. And he started Wednesday too, so, um, Speaker 1 00:17:08 I mean we've been going back and forth on him anyways, like his minutes have always been good off the bench anyways. But now know Sexton again, if Clarkson doesn't, I mean if, uh, Conley doesn't play waiting obviously on the news of marketing, you know, he is just a guy that um, gets in and takes, he's not the guy that gets in and takes shots. It's just if he hits them, great. If he doesn't you're got 10 finish points. Speaker 2 00:17:28 So yeah. G Yeah. GPP only. Speaker 1 00:17:30 Yeah, big time for sure. Uh, Tim Hardaway, as long as he is starting, do you just keep running him out there? Dude, Speaker 2 00:17:37 He's, yeah, to starting Tim Hardaway is the best team Speaker 1 00:17:39 Heart. 22, 26, 28, 17 29. Actual, uh, the 17 hurt me bad. I had a, had a nice five pick fall, uh, fall at half of a PR is short. Um, so big, big hurt for me there, but, uh, again, uh, he is just knocking down shots. Milwaukee's obviously a better defending team. Um, but I mean that guy is just on fire right Speaker 2 00:18:05 Now. Yep. Speaker 1 00:18:07 Uh, you know, uh, Griffin at 48, I I think again gonna play a lot of minutes for Atlanta here. They're just down so many players, um, you know, again, up and down production, but a guy that's just probably just gonna find himself on the floor. Uh, same thing with Kisser, right? With Think Kiss. Burt's just gonna be out there playing 30 minutes cuz they'd have no Beal. Grimes, as you've mentioned, uh, is playing a lot of minutes for the Knicks, been very up and down with how he is been performing. Uh, but Bog and Bogdan in 41 is probably my favorite of this group here. Speaker 2 00:18:39 Yeah. And I can see him getting a lot of ownership. 16 shots after Murray left that game. Um, 25 minutes, like everything is trending upwards for Bogdan. Like obviously three for 16, not ideal. Oh, for 10 from three. Not ideal, Speaker 1 00:18:53 But, but 23 point attempts to last two games is pretty nice. Speaker 2 00:18:56 Very nice. Like regardless of makes or misses, like he's going to continue to shoot. Um, and he's just gonna have a big of trade and if, you know, the trend continues, what are we gonna see 27, 28 minutes? Like that'd be great. So even, even And who's to say he doesn't play 30 without Murray? I, I don't think he does because they're probably trying to like preserve him. Only cons considering he's only played three games since returning. Um, I Speaker 1 00:19:24 Don't know. I think, I think they might give him 35 if he starts. Speaker 2 00:19:27 Okay. Yeah, I mean I, we'll see off season, knee surgery. Um, Speaker 1 00:19:34 I just feel like the fact that he is already played three games, like Yeah, that's fair. They, they're ramping him up a little bit. It wouldn't shock me if he started and just got the full run today. Speaker 2 00:19:41 I mean, I'd play him even if he was capped at 25, I Speaker 1 00:19:45 Mean the price is going down on him, 52, 47, 45, 41. Right. Speaker 2 00:19:49 So I would play, I would play him if it was 25 minutes for the record. Sure. So like if it's 35 to the moon, I'm playing him at 25 minutes. Speaker 1 00:19:57 Uh, I dunno if you saw one of my other favorite players returned the other night, Zor Williams. Uh, he did 19 minutes only in that game. Two for nine shooting gave you 20 fantasy points. Uh, just, just mentioning him, you know, not, not necessarily recommending him but just mentioning him, um, because they are still without Bain. Uh, and Rod is now questionable to play. So like, or I guess Rod you was questionable they started not questionable. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:20:20 Yeah, they started all last year, so Yeah. Speaker 1 00:20:22 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, uh, we'll, we'll see what happens. Just throw, throw him out there. Uh, I got nobody else though. Speaker 2 00:20:28 No. Okay. Speaker 1 00:20:30 Small floor at the top. Katie James, play him if you want. Right. We're not gonna say, although I guess Simmons coming back, we've talked about that with Durant and his impact. Uh, sometimes with, with ca I mean the assists and rebounds with Simmons in the lineup are, is far less for Durant than when he's out of the lineup. So maybe you don't get the eights 5, 7, 5, 5 assists there with Simmons back, but Speaker 2 00:20:56 Probably not. Speaker 1 00:20:56 Um, something to, something to look at there. Um, marketing, if he's in, we'll play obviously at 83 is a good spot for him against Minnesota. What are your thoughts on Pao? You should play Palo at 75. Speaker 2 00:21:09 Um, in tournaments. Speaker 1 00:21:10 Okay. Speaker 2 00:21:12 In tournaments. Alright. Speaker 1 00:21:14 Other mid-tier guys for you in this spot? Again, we've talked a lot, a lot of them. Uh, I like Middleton at 65. Talked about that before we jumped on mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, just again, price decrease on him. 77, 72 7 k minutes have gone up. He's taken 11 shots in all three games. He's a good player. 6,500 is a good number. Speaker 2 00:21:30 Yeah. He is an elite player. Five or more cis in three games. He just hasn't like, we're gonna get the pop too coming soon. He's gonna score 25 actual and give us Speaker 1 00:21:41 6 32 fancy points is five x. He's giving us 31 and a half. 14 and 33. So Yep. Speaker 2 00:21:46 There's a lot of upside to be had for Milton. So I think he's probably my favorite in the mid tier. Um, I would consider Boan if you think that game can stay competitive, just, Speaker 1 00:21:57 I mean if they say he's competitive, it says he's shooting lights out, so Speaker 2 00:22:00 Yeah. Which he's done and we know the, I mean it's, look at the rollercoaster that is Boan bug. Speaker 1 00:22:04 You got ejected the other game for every reason, so. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:22:07 Yeah. I can't, I can't, I I can't imagine that Boan is very mean to referees. So Speaker 1 00:22:12 <laugh>, uh, yeah. Uh, Murphy we talked about, uh, price keeps coming up on him, but 39 fantasy points for him the other day. I Speaker 2 00:22:20 Know. Speaker 1 00:22:21 You know, uh, uh, as long as singer's out, I think there's a, there's a path for Murphy here. Speaker 2 00:22:25 Yeah, I can, I can't, like I'm, again, I felt like this at five nine, like I don't think I could get there and I didn't think I could get there at 6k. But Speaker 1 00:22:36 No one's gonna play be, it's gonna be a, it's gonna be a 3% play. 3% Speaker 2 00:22:41 Maybe 3%, maybe Speaker 1 00:22:42 3%. Uh, Jaylen McDaniels were in on, we've been talking about him. 5,100 bucks. 30 Speaker 2 00:22:47 Charlotte, Charlotte McDaniels. Yeah. Not Minnesota McDaniels. Speaker 1 00:22:51 Yeah. What's the Minnesota McDaniels been up to lately? Let's see here. He played 36 minutes. He Speaker 2 00:22:55 Played, he did play 36 minutes. Speaker 1 00:22:57 I, I would play, I would play, uh, Minnesota McDaniels too. He Speaker 2 00:23:00 Just, he just needs to stay in a foul trouble, dude. Like that was the first time ever. Speaker 1 00:23:05 That's been the case of the, of the Minnesota Power Forward spot for like three years. But him and Vanderbilt Right. Just like stay out of foul trouble and please just Speaker 2 00:23:12 Please just stay out of foul trouble and you guys can like be moderately Speaker 1 00:23:18 Successful. Be, be be good together. Um, let's see here. Uh, Kyle Anderson's 46, Speaker 2 00:23:26 I mean just started started but just played 22 minutes. I think, uh, when Noel is shooting, will Anderson gets take, gets taken off the floor. Speaker 1 00:23:36 Okay. Uh, and I mentioned Griffin earlier. I guess, uh, hunter actually is potentially able to play today. He's questionable. Yep. Yep. Um, if he plays, there's some, I have some interest cuz he's gonna shoot more with Speaker 2 00:23:47 Yeah. No Collins. Yeah, no co I wonder if they would do a line where they started Hunter at Power Forward and moved Jaylen Johnson back to the bench and still started Griffin. A lot of things they could do. Speaker 1 00:23:57 Could, I mean, yeah, they move Bo I mean Bogan probably what shooting guard do you think you would start a shooting guard? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Speaker 2 00:24:02 And then they move, uh, yeah, Griffin and Hunter. I mean whatever the whatever the 2, 3, 4 combination Sure. Is those three wings starting Speaker 1 00:24:12 Together. Yep. I agree with you There. Anybody else for you Smile forward? Speaker 2 00:24:16 Um, not that we Speaker 1 00:24:18 Haven't talked about it. Right, Speaker 2 00:24:19 Right. Haven't talked about, I mean Naji Marshall possibly John, 29 minutes this last game. 30 fantasy points. 3,800. I mean he's just like in their rotation with Herb and Brandon Ingram out and he's a very low usage guy but he's had a steal in every game. He's had three blocks over the last three games. He had a six assist game. He has two five rebound games, so Okay. You know, some value there Speaker 1 00:24:43 Works. Uh, power Forward position again, uh, Giannis is at 12 three. You can play him if you want. That's fine. We're gonna argue with you. Zak's at 10 K. It's definitely getting up there a little bit. Um, Speaker 2 00:24:55 Such a good spot. It is Speaker 1 00:24:56 A good spot. Definitely. I don't, I don't even know what he's gonna play him cuz everyone's gonna go play z uh, Zion here at 96. Speaker 2 00:25:03 Probably the problem with Cak too, he goes for 60 in that game if it stays Yeah. If he plays the 39 minutes that he would at a, in a competitive setting. Yeah. Right. Like he had, he didn't play the last seven minutes, eight minutes of the game. Speaker 1 00:25:17 Yep. Yep. I agree with you. I mean, we know what he can be. He's, he can give you a triple level. So, uh, great upside for him. I, I like him in cash games today. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's just, you worry about the matchup. Zion again should be pretty popular given his recent production. We talked about marketing, Kyle Kuzma, uh, kind of a disappointing effort. Got off to a strong start against Chicago and then just faded there, uh, in the second half. But, uh, against the Pacers, I feel pretty confident in a bounceback for him in 81. Yep. You know Randall, I don't know what to do cuz this is, you know, he keeps going up and down. I mean 69 fantasy ones against Atlanta got balled out 17 rebounds, but he had three games of mid thirties before that against Charlotte earlier this year. He played 40 minutes and only give you 33. So like I I enigma for me turn and play I guess because you just don't know when he is gonna pop. Speaker 2 00:26:07 Yeah. I mean it's a, it's a absolute tournament play. The good thing is like Charlotte Frontcourt is an elite attacking spot. Yeah. Um, but like why did you only have 33 fantasy points in the, in your meeting earlier this year? Mm-hmm. Like why can't we show any type of consistency? I don't have answers to any of these things. That's what makes She's Randall in tournament. Speaker 1 00:26:27 Exactly. Uh, Jackson at 71 is fine. Again, we know what the upside can be. We've been attacking Detroit Front Court all season. Um, you know, it's just whether or not he hits his shots as well, right? Mm-hmm. He's just gonna mm-hmm <affirmative>, you know, Speaker 2 00:26:39 I'm boxing two steals. Speaker 1 00:26:40 You know exactly what he is gonna give you defensively. He's not gonna rebound whenever Steven Adams on the floor. So that's kind of annoying. But like if he knocks down shots then he has a ceiling. So, um, a spot, a spot to look there. Um, Mo Vokner started man. He dude like I tried to tell you, if he started we should play 'em back. Toback games literally doing 47 fantasy points. Double, double if he's starting I'm playing em again. 40 at 57 Speaker 2 00:27:08 I guess. Yeah, I mean, well I can't, what is there say Speaker 1 00:27:11 Guy, what you didn't argue with me about him. Speaker 2 00:27:13 There's nothing, he's a fantasy player for Minute Monster. I mean I Speaker 1 00:27:16 7 12, 42 47 Speaker 2 00:27:18 Last. It's not that I don't understand he's a fantasy point per minute monster. But like on like with Orlando getting healthier, like there's no chance he'd contin like, you know, that he does that and then he does it. It's like, all right, sure. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:27:33 Yep, yep. Um, let's see here. Somebody was, it was Jaylen Smith ruled out last Speaker 2 00:27:40 Game. Yeah. Yeah. He did not play last game, Speaker 1 00:27:42 Right? Uh, he's in for this game. He's Speaker 2 00:27:45 Off the Andrew report Jeep. We know he is g I mean GPS Speaker 1 00:27:48 Only. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see, Vanderbilt sold, doesn't do his usual thing there. Um, is there anybody that we're missing down here that we haven't talked about yet? Speaker 2 00:28:00 Probably not. Brandon Clark's gonna play 20, 30 minutes if you can guess his uh, guess his role. Yeah. Um, Speaker 1 00:28:08 Let's go center then finish this one off here. Jojo at 11 five against the Lakers and AD at 11 one against Philly. Who wins out in that matchup? Speaker 2 00:28:18 Um, both. Speaker 1 00:28:21 I mean, I don't know. Can, can both go off against one another Speaker 2 00:28:25 As long as they stay outta foul trouble. Speaker 1 00:28:26 Oh, that's what I'm wondering. Jojo Fould out against Houston. Speaker 2 00:28:30 Oh, I mean he's so good too. Um, outside the Cleveland game, MBI has been Super Rock solid. Speaker 1 00:28:40 Mm-hmm <affirmative>, Speaker 2 00:28:42 He just, I mean he has not given us left less than 56 fancy points since November 10th outside of Cleveland game. Withstanding Cleveland Speaker 1 00:28:51 Game. I know there the same way eight minutes flu like Speaker 2 00:28:54 Sometimes. Right. True. <laugh> Cleveland is the, Cleveland is the, the dream killer. Um, I mean I think they're both in play you Speaker 1 00:29:03 For 55 and 17 Speaker 2 00:29:05 <laugh>. Dude, it's just so hard to, it's just I Yeah, no I know. It's just so hard to like argue against the current form of Anthony Davis at any Speaker 1 00:29:13 I agree. This is just one of those spots where it's like two elite centers are ba banging up against one another. You know, like who wins? Do they just neutralize one another? You know, Speaker 2 00:29:21 I don't think so. Like, I don't think so. I think they're both just so good. Speaker 1 00:29:24 Who's the better defender? Speaker 2 00:29:27 They're both really good. Like I Davis is like blocking more shots, but Embiid is also blocking two shots a game himself. Like they're both, and that's not to say that's just the only barometer of defense, but like for our purposes, they're both going to get us two blocks or Speaker 1 00:29:44 Whatever. So if, so if you're making three lineups that you're just playing one and bead one Davis or are you fading this one completely? Speaker 2 00:29:50 I don't, it's risk. I think your point of like neutralizing probably limits me to tournaments. Okay. Or both them. Um, if I'm playing three lineups and who's the top play of this slate? You know, like, I don't know Moran, if that game stays competitive, possibly one of these guys for sure. Ultimately like I might, I don't know. I don't know. I was gonna say Eileen and Bead, it's a pace of spot, like a huge pace of spot for Philly. Um, and they still have obviously a lot of question marks like health-wise. They obviously have um, hardback. Speaker 1 00:30:30 I, I think the, the interesting test is gonna be the free throws cuz MB gets Fould so much. Does a D Speaker 2 00:30:37 Is 80 the one? Yeah. Speaker 1 00:30:38 Right. Like you see the one that's hacking here. So, um, Speaker 2 00:30:41 Eighty's not really and ad is not really, he doesn't fa he's only had two games in which he's had five fouls this year. Like he doesn't really foul. Speaker 1 00:30:51 Yeah. But this games, he, he also rarely goes up against a senator that has this level of usage. So Speaker 2 00:30:56 That's fair. Speaker 1 00:30:57 Uh, definitely a fun battle to watch for sure. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, Speaker 2 00:31:01 Wolf Bolton play for tournaments both Speaker 1 00:31:03 In play for tournaments. I tried to warn you that, that Judi Gober has been too cheap. Speaker 2 00:31:07 Uh, yeah, he, yeah, he was really good. Speaker 1 00:31:09 Pacer 1621. A little revenge game here against Utah. In Utah. They played him already at 41 fantasy points, uh, in that game. But that was at home. This is his return to Utah. Speaker 2 00:31:19 Is there bad blood? Do we know? I don't think there's bad blood. Right? I Speaker 1 00:31:23 Thinks bad blood. They, Speaker 2 00:31:25 You think there's Speaker 1 00:31:25 Bad blood? I think they blamed him for Covid. I think they blamed him for the internal issues with Donovan Mitchell. I I think there's bad blood here. I do. Speaker 2 00:31:34 Well I don't know if you know, I don't know if they're the only ones blaming him for Covid. Speaker 1 00:31:39 No, a lot of people are, but I think because of that, I think because of that a lot of, a lot of internal organizational frustration with Rudy Gobert. Okay. Um, and they traded him. So first time back in Utah I think, I think this is a Gobert spot. Speaker 2 00:31:54 Okay. I'm with you. Speaker 1 00:31:55 Um, he's again, he's just been really, he is also been pretty, pretty decent as well. So, uh, let's see other mid-tier guys here. I don't know. Do you go Jared Allen at 66? Speaker 2 00:32:07 Pretty good spot. Pretty good spot against, uh, Saboni. Yep. Saboni is, Saboni is a power forward playing center. Like Saboni is a good player, very good player. He's very foul happy and he's like six 10 and he has skills a little like a power forward. Yeah. He probably shouldn't be playing center so I think Jared Allen could abuse him on the glass and stuff. Speaker 1 00:32:29 I agree. Uh, let's see here. Kelly owes up to six K. Geez. Long-lived the value days but still out there hitting shots. So I guess if you wanna play any tournaments you can. We talked about Wagner already. Uh, Plumley has been pretty solid as usual this year. So if you want to go here in cash games at 57, you're probably Okay. Uh, Steven Adams questionable. That's pretty interesting. You que if Adams is out, I like that's a, that's a boost to Jackson for sure. Speaker 2 00:32:53 Yeah. And Clark probably and Clark brand. Clark. Yep. Brand Clark would be a good Speaker 1 00:32:57 Value. Um, Mitch, Rob, I'll play Mitch Rob at 5k again Charlotte, he went played 37 minutes against him earlier this year at 32 fantasy points. So mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, I'm fine on that one. Let's see here. Speaker 2 00:33:09 So I got one. Okay. And it's dependent on the Utah news. So they started both Kelly Lennick and Walker Kessler last game. Sure. Walker Kessler, John had foul trouble. So he only played 24 minutes. He had 3000 like 10 minutes in the first half. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:33:27 10 points, 12 rebounds, five blocks. His mo coming out of college was, he is going to block a lot of shots and he's going to grab a lot of rebounds. He did both those things. He's doing both those things pretty much every time he steps on the floor. Man. The last two games he's got in 24 minutes, he has two double doubles and 37 plus fantasy points. Uh, he is going to take a couple shots. Yeah. He's going to be near the rim. Um, he, if there's no marketing and they started him, he'd be one of the best players on the site. Speaker 1 00:34:00 I agree. Speaker 2 00:34:00 Because I don't think, let me, let me, I don't think Rudy Gobert would put him in f Sure. I don't think it could be completely wrong. He could just be one of those dudes. He could be Jaren Jackson, like where he is just fouling all the time. But just throwing it out there, that's Speaker 1 00:34:17 Fine. It works for me. Um, and you're right, he's another guy. First round pick rookie was part of the Gobert trade, so mm-hmm. <affirmative> a little bit part of all that. All right, let's go ahead and build our lineups then where, like you mentioned earlier, like where is our, where's our starting point here tonight? Speaker 2 00:34:34 I don't know if we need to spend all the Speaker 1 00:34:36 Way up to, I I'm in agreement with you. I don't know if, if like the 10 K guys are must for our lineups. Uh, again, there's, I like Harden at 89 and you know, I like and Speaker 2 00:34:48 Halliburton at 92. Hi Speaker 1 00:34:49 Halliburton at 92. Like I like those guys. Um, we can probably play a few of them. I know we're gonna play, I'm gonna throw Bogdan in there now just to throw 'em in the mm-hmm. <affirmative> just the small forward spot for us there at 41. Um, I'll Speaker 2 00:35:03 Go, I'd be okay going with any combination of those two that you mentioned. Halliburton, Edwards, and Harden. Yep. I got it As our starting point. If we wanna just go roll with two of them. Speaker 1 00:35:13 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I'm just checking to see what it's like to play all three. Uh, Speaker 2 00:35:18 So we would have to play like Walker Kessler at that point. Speaker 1 00:35:21 So Halliburton Harden bogged in and Edwards is 4,700 a player for a power forward center forwarding utility. Did we have uh, like a cheat kit guy that we Speaker 2 00:35:32 Liked? The options for Power Forward and Center are easy. If there's injury news, it's Clark and Kessler, right? Like that's easy, but I just don't know if there's enough. Speaker 1 00:35:42 So N e w was was 36, but we need guys ruled Speaker 2 00:35:46 Out. It's, yeah, it's just, I think Conley comes back like all the reports are him coming back Speaker 1 00:35:51 Actually was 38. Zaire was 36. Um, let's see here. So those are, those are our under, uh, Speaker 2 00:36:01 I don't think we can, I don't, I don't think forcing any of those guys in makes sense for us. I think we probably have to pick rhymes Speaker 1 00:36:08 Is 42 Speaker 2 00:36:10 You wanna try to make it work? You we Speaker 1 00:36:12 Can. I just wanna see what it looks like. Speaker 2 00:36:14 Um, Speaker 1 00:36:15 Rhymes in. It doesn't, Grimes doesn't really do much. It makes it 49 a play. All right, I'll pull out Edwards. We'll give us Halliburton hard in and bogged in. Gives us basically 5,600 a player, um, for Power Forward, center Guard Ford Utility. So let's see here. Uh, we liked the uh, Charlotte McDaniels. Speaker 2 00:36:36 I was literally just saying, I was just looking at Jayla McDaniels as well. Speaker 1 00:36:40 Charlotte McDaniels a Power Forward at 51. Uh, let's see here. Speaker 2 00:36:47 Jared Allen at Center 66 or Speaker 1 00:36:53 Emergency. There Speaker 2 00:36:54 He is. Mo Wagner, Mo Mo Wagner, Speaker 1 00:36:57 Mo Wagner, Wagner 57. Uh, let's see, Alan in Sacramento. I like Alan in Sacramento. That works. Uh, that's a good spot. It's 53 a play for a guard forward utility, um, Speaker 2 00:37:10 Guard forward utility. There's not Speaker 1 00:37:11 More A 47 Hardaway. 51. Speaker 2 00:37:14 Yeah, it's probably T HJ with in current form. Got us some late night exposure there. Yep. I know you, I know you like Middleton too. Speaker 1 00:37:22 I do like Milton. We can see Mil if I throw Middleton at Ford, that gives us a $4,500 utility. $4,500 utility is kisser. Um, grams Grimes is 42 Walker. Kessler obviously is at 42. Oh Speaker 2 00:37:38 Yeah. I mean it's Kessler if everyone's out, you Speaker 1 00:37:40 Wanna do healed instead Milton. Speaker 2 00:37:43 Yeah, that works. Speaker 1 00:37:44 Okay. You don't mind that We have two Pacers obviously, I imagine. Speaker 2 00:37:48 No. Speaker 1 00:37:48 Okay. And 5k, uh, Miro At 5k? Speaker 2 00:37:53 Um, yeah, that's fine. Speaker 1 00:37:55 Okay. Uh, Halliburton Harden, Bodan, McDaniels, Allen Hardaway Healed and Miro, no money left on the table. Full will be out. Uh, James and I will be in Discording on Twitter if you have any questions. And we will catch you guys later.