Speaker 0 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you, you're listening to the Fantasy TFS podcast with those John and Pemba and James Grand,
Speaker 1 00:00:11 What's going on at the nation? John and Pema with James Grande. Welcome into the Fantasy Alarm N NBA DFS podcast and livestream for Monday. Seven game main slate. James, coming outta the holidays, you and I are not able to record last week due to some traveling schedules and personal things going on, but we're back in the saddle here post-Christmas, post-Christmas Eve, uh, getting everybody ready for a big week of games leading into the New Year, man.
Speaker 2 00:00:34 Yeah. Happy holidays to you and yours, John. And happy holidays to the entire F Nation. Happy to be, um, back in the saddle. Uh, seven game slate Monday. Slates have been a personal favorite of mine this year, um, due to the size, it's, you know, we're single digits is always a good thing. Um, yes, but I hope everyone had a, a great holiday. I hope everyone did well on, made some money on Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1 00:01:01 Sunday.
Speaker 2 00:01:02 Yeah. Yeah. Christmas day slate. Um, yeah, seven games all over. Two 20, um, over unders Portland, Charlotte, topping the slate at 2 37 and a half, 2 30, 6 and a half in New Orleans, Indiana, 2 35 and a half. Utah, San Antonio, two 30 and a half. Houston, Chicago. So we we're gonna have a fun slate. John, full of, uh, high point totals, lots of fantasy points. Um, not a lot of star power
Speaker 1 00:01:26 Either. No, no. Uh, because Christmas Day was yesterday. You know, the guys like mb, YOIC, Luca, Giannis Tatum, you name 'em, like the top price guys that are 1112 K, most slates, uh, they're not here. Uh, James Harden probably gonna find himself in that price range next time the six ERs take the floor as well. Uh, top price guys on this lake, Kevin Durant, Lam Ball, uh, are up there over 10 K Zion Williamson also up over $10,000 here. Uh, only two notable guys ruled out as of now. That is Kauai Leonard and Brandon Ingram. We are tracking the injury status for Jimmy Butler, uh, ban out of Iowa as well. Also questionable, uh, for this slate here forward to the heat. So, you know, should they be ruled out, obviously, uh, that'll bring some impact to the Miami rotation as they take on Minnesota in a very favorable spot.
Speaker 1 00:02:11 Uh, potentially for guys like Tyler Hero and Max Struse and guys like that. Victor Oladipo, uh, if Bam and Butler work to sit. But that being said, James, here, like I said, we got seven games. Let's just get into the groove of it. Let's break it down here. Top three guards up over nine K, Tyler, uh, uh, lamella Ball, Damien Luer, Tyre, Halliburton, uh, all of them really coming off strong performances here. Lalo Ball wasted no time did DraftKings bumping his price tag all the way up over $10,000. Uh, how would you rank those three guards when building your lineups for today?
Speaker 2 00:02:43 Huh? How would I rank them? Um, I'd probably rank them in order in which they're priced. Okay. But I have no problem going any direction. Like if you need to save some money off ball, like going to Littler and Halliburton, I don't think is a bad thing at all. Right. Um, Lillard has given us 70 fantasy point upside. Halliburton coming off 63, his last game where he scored 43 actual and 10 threes. Um, and Lilo's gone nuclear lately too, as long as he's staying at a foul trouble. So I
Speaker 1 00:03:19 Was gonna say, who's the biggest bus factor of those three? Is it Ball cuz of the fouls?
Speaker 2 00:03:25 Probably. Um, it, I I would say Lillard is probably the safest of the, but like Galton is incredibly safe too, but we've also seen Halliburton go over nine from the floor this year where Lillard has not done that. Um, I would say you're probably right, but even in that John, the Sacramento game, as you alluded to, um, before we got on air, uh, 6,000, 27 minutes, 23, 12 5 and 50 fancy points, like even when he is fouling, he's going nuts. So like, it doesn't feel like Lamella is gonna bust. It doesn't feel like any of them are gonna be busted. I, I, I would rank them in order of their pricing, but I think all three of them are elite plays today.
Speaker 1 00:04:07 Sure. Uh, in the mid tier here, looking at the point guards, uh, you know, McCollum's at 86, he had a 70 fantasy point game the other day. Granted, no Zion Zion's gonna play today. Uh, Kyrie Irving, uh, as we know is really flashing some nice upside, uh, took a day off, now it gets match up here against Cleveland. Kind of a tough spot. And then opposite of him, Darius Garland price tag coming down on him. He is $7,700 Russell 74 Porter 71. And if we're kind of looking at this next tier of guards, meaning that 70 AK range, um, any of these pop out to you at all?
Speaker 2 00:04:42 Yeah, I mean we, I think we knew McCullum was gonna come around shooting and he has 46% over his last five games. 49% from three over, over that span as well. Um, the scoring's up that he's played with Zion in some of those games and you know, yes the price tag is expensive, but Indiana's a bad defensive team so you can get there if you'd like. 18th and defensive writing for Indiana overall. Um, Irving we know is a tournament play going back to Cleveland. Um, apparently likes going to Cleveland. Good for him I guess. Um, but uh, Kyrie for tournaments, I mean he scored 38 actual two games going 52 fantasy points. Yeah. Like you would think maybe there's like 60 van point upside in there, but it's still six, three round, three assists. Like that's just not enough as
Speaker 1 00:05:28 Getting him under nine k is like, it is just a spot you're comfortable with for him,
Speaker 2 00:05:31 So. Yep. Yep. Um, and then the other guys you mentioned like Garland, the price point is really good. Um, get him right and he goes for nearly 60, get him wrong and he's gonna give you 30 fancy points. Yeah. And probably crush your hopes and dreams. Uh, DJO Russell for Torments tough spot. Um, you know, coming off a pretty big performance has had a bunch of 'em without Carl length, Anthony Towns, but up and down Torments only in Kevin Porter, Jr same thing, like 22 fantasy points last game, 54, the game before 32 28, the two games prior. Like this tier is very torment heavy, um, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 00:06:08 Yeah, no, I agree with you. And I think, I think the next tier is kind of similar outside of maybe Kyle Lowry, uh, maybe a safer cash game, uh, option here in the 6K range, especially if Butler bam are not in the lineup here. Uh, Clarkson tournaments, Simons you can use in tournaments there. Trey Jones, maybe Trey Jones, a little bit more cash than g p. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> because he's just, uh, ceiling hasn't really been there, but not a terrible spot. Um, everybody's gonna go to Ola Depot, uh, if we find out that Butler and Bam are ruled out. So, uh, definitely something kind of to to watch as all that kind of continues to break through.
Speaker 2 00:06:43 Uh, speaking of breaking
Speaker 1 00:06:44 News, Josh Yeah. Zion, is he in, is he out? Update the people?
Speaker 2 00:06:48 Uh, he is listed doubtful. So good thing we're talking about point guards here, uh, cuz if he does not play
Speaker 1 00:06:53 Right back to see Jam a column
Speaker 2 00:06:55 Smash play, absolute smash play. Um, and there's gonna be a lot of interesting value, um, at the rest of the Pelican. Yeah. The positions because, um, we've seen guys like Naji Marshall play a lot in Zion Steed. So, um, oh, and Herb Jones now listed out for the Pelicans now he is in health protocols. So,
Speaker 1 00:07:16 So that is definitely an Naji Marshall potential play. Definitely
Speaker 2 00:07:19 Na
Speaker 1 00:07:19 Marshall. See this means we're probably gonna get more news throughout the day. Yep. Um, we'll, we'll wait and see if, if, you know, no Zion and Nancy is out again, you know, Valentini becomes a, a really big play here today in that magic for the Pelicans, uh, going up against the Pacers. So certainly something to watch here. Uh, the benefits of recording live, uh, James, you know, uh, is you get all these news updates here so, uh, we can kind of reevaluate, uh,
Speaker 2 00:07:48 Bambi listed
Speaker 1 00:07:49 Out there it is. Butler's gotta be next, right? I gotta gotta think. Bams
Speaker 2 00:07:53 Bam, autobio listed out, um, Dyson Daniels listed. Questionable. Another, uh, pelicans potential absence there. Um, only see Bam thus far. Nothing, nothing more on the update front, but, um,
Speaker 1 00:08:08 Still very notable.
Speaker 2 00:08:09 Very notable. Uh, I mean I think that does put hero in in play. I mean, that's gonna put a lot of different people in play. Yeah. I hate, I hate when Bam sits cuz then we have to pick through like all these
Speaker 1 00:08:22 Like well I think there's actually been a clear path, right? It's not Jovi, you know, Deadman didn't play I don't think the other day. So like I
Speaker 2 00:08:29 Know who, I know who it is. I just don't wanna play these, I don't like Orlando. Robinson is probably gonna play a lot. Yeah. And we're gonna see Highsmith, right? Highsmith play and yeah, we're probably gonna see both those guys
Speaker 1 00:08:43 Play. I mean, you just don't play them cuz they're going up against Gobert. You probably now go play Gobert, but we'll, we'll get to, uh, we'll get to the center spot there. Um,
Speaker 2 00:08:52 What a wild, what a wild stretch of, uh, of news. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:08:55 It's, it's a good thing we started recording right now, uh, yes. Right now to get all this information out. Uh, agreed. You know, if we recorded say like a half an hour ago, we would've missed all of this news,
Speaker 2 00:09:06 We would've missed all of it. Good timing
Speaker 1 00:09:08 On our, and we wouldn't have had, uh, wouldn't have had any of the, this podcast would've wasted is what would've happened. Go,
Speaker 2 00:09:12 Go us, go us for thinking that through.
Speaker 1 00:09:15 Yeah, exactly. So anyways, back to what we're doing, back to what we're breaking down here at the Point Guard position, more focus here on Ola Depot, uh, at
Speaker 2 00:09:23 56, Kyle, Larry and Yeah. And Depot, both of them. And
Speaker 1 00:09:25 Yeah, Larry Depot, very much gonna be in play here. Definitely go back to McCullum. Uh, probably a core play of lineups now. Yep. Going up against Halliburton in that team. Uh, again, he went for 70 fantasy points the other day without Zion, uh, and, uh, and Ingram in the lineup. So, uh, definitely a good spot for them. There again, we like Simon's at 65, uh, Jayden Ivey's been up and down. Um, you know, price tag still is okay for him. Uh, but just inconsistent with his pricing, you know, same thing with Conley. Good price minutes in the high twenties, but inconsistent playing time, uh, playing production wise here. Um, I like Noelle at 47 as a value play. And then if ne Smith is out again, we can probably go back to Mbar, uh, at 46
Speaker 2 00:10:14 Can probably go to Nubard. Yep, I agree. Um, and I'll throw ao I'll throw io just sanu in there. Yeah. Um, with, uh, and honestly, I'll throw Jose Alvarado in there as well if they're missing all these, if they're missing all these guys. Sure. Alvarado's playing 20 plus minutes. He's not like giving you a crazy ceiling, but, uh, we saw a crazy ceiling not too long ago in the beginning of December at eight threes and 38 actuals. So I'll throw, I'll throw Alvarado in there. Um, I'm looking to see if the heat, uh, they haven't updated, they haven't sent in an updated entry report. I cuz usually they send it in hourly here. It's, we'll see if we got anything for the heat. Uh, Butler's still listed question. Well, Dwayne Edmond out John. So it's
Speaker 1 00:10:59 Definitely Highsmith then, or, or Robinson are gonna
Speaker 2 00:11:01 Be Yeah, it's gonna Yeah. Um, they still have Jimmy Butler listed.
Speaker 1 00:11:04 Questionable. Yeah. Which is annoying, right? Like why are you able to give us the band news and not the Butler news? So Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:11:09 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:11:10 Uh, all right. Shooting guard position then. Uh, Anthony Edwards, that $9,200 kind of expensive but match ups at least a little bit better not having to deal with bam, maybe in the paint, you know, if he goes to drive there. Shot extension, uh, Tyler Hero without Bam I think is much more appealing. And then of course if Butler goes, that's kind of bingo for him at 91, but you have a nine K Paul George against the Pistons and no Kawaii Leonard, right? Like mm-hmm <affirmative>, um, you know, we, we didn't, I totally mention it at the top of the slate, but you know, because there's no high price guys here, you can build some pretty nice fair and balanced lineups. And now that we're getting, you know, some value opening up on this slate here, like you can get George and McCullum in your lineup and feel pretty comfortable with the guys that you're building around, you know?
Speaker 2 00:11:52 Yeah. And you know what's funny? I feel like people don't play Paul George. Like, I, I feel like every time I've ever rostered Paul George, even without Kauai earlier this year, no one ever uses the guy. Yeah. And I feel like the McCullum or the Zion news only is gonna like further that because people are just gonna like double spend up on point guard or, you know, like get to McCullum and get to Lillard or get to McCullum and Fall or McCullum and Halliburton or something. And I feel like Paul George falls by the wayside far too often leading me to say he's one of my favorite tournament plays in the slate. Probably one of my favorite plays on the slate point per dollar. I'd probably put him up there against anyone price higher than him.
Speaker 1 00:12:30 Yeah, no, I, I agree with you there. Uh, I think he is, I think he is very much, uh, in play at the top of the guys. Um, just ceiling wise he could be there. Uh, if we are looking in the mid tier though, like I really love Zach Levine at this price. They just don't move him. Um, you know, he keeps producing, you know, he has a nice ceiling when he gets there. So a big fan of Levine there at 76. Uh, also like Vall and Jailing Green, uh, you know, in this 6K range here, buddy Heal, you can throw out there in tournaments as well. Um, but I would go all the way down to Trey Murphy at 5k is like my guy that I'm focusing in on here. Short Norm Powells look good. Probably could start in the, with Kwa Leonard out if they go, uh, in that direction. Um, but the way Murphy has played the last two games without Zion in the lineup, 26 and 36, uh, fantasy points for him here, this is a guy that we saw be very productive player for a stretch there when Zion was out of the lineup. Um, and they had no, uh, you know, McCullum was missing too and they had no Ingram him, but, uh, I do like Murphy at 5k.
Speaker 2 00:13:30 Yeah, I think Murphy's a great play. He just looked, he was dominant his last time out. We know he is a scorer. Um, and it's not even Jo Zion now. It's Herb Jones too, right? So like they're, and no Ingram, like, there are three top wing players or three of their best wing players not there. So, um, Murphy's gonna see all the time he can handle and yeah, I think he's viable in all format. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:13:54 I I'm on a full agreement with you there as well. Uh, any other mid-range guys off the board for you here?
Speaker 2 00:14:00 I was just looking at, uh, maybe, uh, your favorite player, Devonte Graham could be an option if Dyson Daniel sits too. Sure. He's $3,100. They could be without Daniels Ingram Jones Zion, um, maybe Devonte Graham Fi stumbles his way into like 22, 23 or 24 minutes. He's $3,100. I don't know.
Speaker 1 00:14:20 No, no, I, I agree. It could be, it could be a spine and pus with these health and safety protocols. Who knows what goes on the rest of the day, right?
Speaker 2 00:14:27 Like,
Speaker 1 00:14:29 So I, I, I don't mind, I don't mind it. Anybody else shooting guard?
Speaker 2 00:14:34 Um, I don't believe there's anyone for
Speaker 1 00:14:38 Me. Yep. I'm with you there. All right, let's go to small four then. Uh, kds at the top at 5K at ten five rather, uh, tough spot for him. Again, I'm not gonna say don't play Kevin Duran cuz he's Kevin Duran, but, uh, a lot of size in Cleveland. So I do, I do worry a bit about that. Uh, dn they just, they don't touch his price point. Uh, he is coming off another really big game, 56 fancy points against the Knicks here, the same exact price, 8,400 bucks. Uh, now he's going up against Houston consistently. One of the best matchups for anybody all season long. So. Yep. Uh, if you wanna play do Rosen, you wanna play Levine together, I'm okay with it. I also think Lori Marketing will be very popular today at $8,300. Um, Calvin Johnson at 73 is a really good price tag. So again, a lot of this mid-tier range today is, is is pretty elite. I consider Boon, uh, in a good spot. Jeremy Granite 69 s in a good spot. So, uh, small forward has a lot of options. You can get pretty different with it.
Speaker 2 00:15:30 Yeah. And I think things could um, potentially be even deeper too. Like, um, Caleb Martin is probable, so what's his status gonna, but Max Sru could potentially find his way into 30 minutes or Duncan Robinson can find his way into 30 minutes. Um, if Jimmy Butler sits again, cuz we already know there's no bam. Yeah. Um, so the heat heater gonna be a nightmare, but like one of those guys could pop. I like Josh hard a lot, 5,600 as long as he con continues to be efficient scoring the basketball 12 plus points in four straight games. That's led to 31 plus fantasy points in three or four. You know, his, his ability to rebound the basketball and he's six assistant to his last three too. Yeah. So, um, and then, uh, you mentioned, I mean the multi-position eligibility obviously helps. Norm obviously helps. Um, Trey Murphy as well and then, uh, Naja Marshall 4,800 I think no reason we don't see him play 30. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:16:28 Wish he was as sheep as he was like two slates ago, but agreed, you know, agreed. When, um, herb and Zion were out before, who was getting a lot of that power forward run, it was Naji, right? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:16:39 <affirmative>, Naja Marshall was playing a ton.
Speaker 1 00:16:40 Yeah. Okay. Good to know there. Uh, hi Smith, as you mentioned, he's 4,400. He's actually played, uh, some decent minutes here. He played 41 against Chicago. I don't know if man was in that camera or not, but, um, lot of, lot of minutes for him there for sure will be a guy that finds his way. TJ Warren is a dart throw in tournaments, 3,800 bucks, uh, 20 plus fantasy points and four of the last six games for him. Uh, minutes of over 20 in each of the last two games, I think is encouraging here. One of them was a blowout, uh, or both of them I guess were blowouts. Do you think that has anything to do with the recent uptake or potential in their rotation? No. Joe Harris today?
Speaker 2 00:17:15 Yeah, I mean, I think the blowout could be a factor. Um, but also he's playing 17 to 21 minutes like in competitive settings as well. Um, I think they're just ramping 'em up and eventually probably becomes their sixth man, seventh man playing 24, 25 minutes a game. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, yeah, I think where we could see 22, 23, 24 minutes here. Sure.
Speaker 1 00:17:39 All right. Power forward then. Obviously Zion news changes a lot of things here. Uh, KDS at ten five, small forward, we talked about that one already. D Rose, we've discussed market and we've discussed Grant, we've discussed. So
Speaker 2 00:17:49 Would you play well? Would you play Butler?
Speaker 1 00:17:51 Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:17:51 Yeah, yeah. Minnesota we know. No, no,
Speaker 1 00:17:53 No, a hundred percent.
Speaker 2 00:17:54 I mean, we know Jimmy Butler, Minnesota, we, we know what
Speaker 1 00:17:57 Happened with without Bam. If Butler's active, he may be my number one play at $9,400. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:18:03 So yeah, he's up there.
Speaker 1 00:18:04 Um, yeah, definitely like, definitely like that spot for him in 94. Um, Ben Simmons probably in tough spot. Mobley Boon, we've talked a lot,
Speaker 2 00:18:16 Dude. I, I'm not gonna lie, I'm playing a lot of Ben Simmons right now.
Speaker 1 00:18:20 I've been playing a lot of Ben Simmons, but is Cleveland bothersome to you at all? Like, he's playing center right forward, you know, like,
Speaker 2 00:18:27 No, because like the scoring doesn't need, like, it doesn't need to be any higher than it already is for him to, like, if he's getting, if he's approaching double digit rebounds and assists, like 6,300 is too cheap for him, especially if we're going to he 28 minutes. If we're getting back to like 30 minutes. Ben Simmons, I mean the Gold State game I played super tilting was in foul trouble all 19 minutes and then it was, and then it was a 40 point. Yeah. And then it was a 40 point game and it's like, oh, we don't need to use them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:18:57 So no, we, we, listen, we were, we were touting 'em before we got hurt again. Um, and we were, we were riding 'em pretty hard. So I'm with you. I'll go, I I don't mind it again. Cleveland's just, I I, Alan and Mobley being there wearing, they're,
Speaker 2 00:19:08 They are good. They're very good.
Speaker 1 00:19:09 You just, they worry me a bit. Um, but yeah, you can go there if you want. No problems. Here again, we talk multi-position eligibility. All these guys play both, so. Yep. Um, Marcus Morris in 57, uh, without Kauai.
Speaker 2 00:19:23 Yeah, it was literally just pulling up. Um, I wanted to see his use without quoi. Um,
Speaker 1 00:19:29 Recent numbers, involv pretty good even with Leonard and on the floor. So
Speaker 2 00:19:32 Yeah, 20% usage rate's, pretty good point. 9% usage bump without Qi, pretty good. Um, 0.84 fancy points per minute. All pretty good. All pretty good stuff. Um, Paul George says nobody's surprised, biggest usage Bump on the board without Qi, so Yeah. Yeah. He gets more, he looks safe. He looks safe.
Speaker 1 00:19:51 Yeah. Look, list decent here. Um, let's see here. Uh, van, I mean, uh, Jabari Smith had a breakout game. I don't know if we can count on that happening two games in a row, but
Speaker 2 00:20:02 Rollercoaster arrived. That guy is. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:20:04 Yep. But he's talented, right? Or was he number two?
Speaker 2 00:20:07 Pick number two. Yeah, he was gonna go number one and then he wasn't <laugh> everyone pegged him number one. No, Orlando. And then it was, uh, swerve. Hello.
Speaker 1 00:20:16 Yeah, exactly. So, um, so can had a good game the other day, didn't he? Yeah, he, yeah, actually a couple good games trying be so can 4,500 against Utah.
Speaker 2 00:20:27 Yeah. I mean Sohan was the lottery pick, right? Like Yeah, they took him in the lottery. So, um, another guy that's very fell happy at times. Um, I don't think it's like, look, this type of production we haven't seen, so we, we can't say with certainty
Speaker 1 00:20:46 That it's like Trey Murphy, not questionable
Speaker 2 00:20:48 Trey Murphy now. Questionable. That's awesome. So this is just, they might not have enough people to even play, um, if, like, if they're all just covid, if they're all just like they have Covid or if they're all sick. Um, a lot of news, uh, to break in New Orleans. Um, but yeah, I, I think so hands in play, 4,500. I think if I, here's the thing, if he's like gonna pick up a lot of ownership mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I might stay away because we have not seen this type of sustained upside from him. Uh, we've only seen like a handful of gauge this year where he's gone over 30 finish points Yeah. Or 25 fancy points for that matter. So if he's gonna pick up a lot of our ship, like we see that when, um, we get our first run of, I may stay away in tournaments, but, um, we'll, we'll see how that, that number looks, um, as the day
Speaker 1 00:21:40 Progresses. I mean, they should want this kid to be getting more minutes. So
Speaker 2 00:21:42 I agree. I well, we, they should be doing a lot of things and, and pop still like's like, Hey Devin, let's, let's come off the bench every so often. Hey. Yeah. Like, it's like what are we, like they are clearly they're doing their best possible job to get Victor Roomba,
Speaker 1 00:21:55 Right? Let's say Trey Murphy doesn't play. Now, who is, who's on this team?
Speaker 2 00:21:59 Devonte Graham
Speaker 1 00:22:00 Pur is out. Uh, Zion is out, we assume, uh, Murphy's now Questionable.
Speaker 2 00:22:06 Uh, NA's playing 40 minutes.
Speaker 1 00:22:08 Larry answers questionable NA's for sure playing 40 minutes.
Speaker 2 00:22:14 So McCullum so they probably, what they could do is they could start,
Speaker 1 00:22:19 Does like Garrett Temple start,
Speaker 2 00:22:22 So I was thinking they could start McCullum at shooting Guard and you're either starting Alvarado, they, they recalled, um, Kyra Lewis, who was their lottery pick two years ago. Yeah. Um, they recalled him, he played the game before in their last game, prior to Christmas. You've only played a handful of minutes. Um, they could go Garrett Temple. I assume if all these guys sit like everyone's out, I assume McCullum Place starts at shooting guard and they start one of these guys, Alvarado, temple Lewis, like one of those guys, or Graham, right? I guess one of those four guys could start McCollum's not coming off the floor.
Speaker 1 00:22:59 No, no. This is, this is like the, you, you, you just play CJ McCollum game. Yeah. Right. It's like when, when Miami was down, everybody and, and Lowry played 45 minutes. Yep. And like you, you had to play Kyle Lari that day. You went for 60 finish points, right? Like
Speaker 2 00:23:15 I Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had to play 'em. Um, so yeah, I think that's ultimately what they do. They would just shift McCullum to shooting Garden, start one of those four guys and then you just see McCullum just play Sure. Bolo mats. That's assuming that's like you said, assuming nobody plays.
Speaker 1 00:23:32 Yeah. I'm, I'm
Speaker 2 00:23:33 I but Naji, but Naji, I mean, if Herb doesn't, or herb's out, if Trey Murphy doesn't play Naja, Marshall's actually close to a core play because he's actually gonna be on the floor for 40. He's playing 40 minutes.
Speaker 1 00:23:46 So I I, so here's what I think they, this, this is what I could see happening potentially also is if Larry Nance plays, they start Nance at the four Jackson Hayes is your backup. Big Naji Marshall plays the three at small forward, right? And that's how the, they would have to play that rotation.
Speaker 2 00:24:04 Why did Jackson Hayes play 28 minutes the other day?
Speaker 1 00:24:07 Uh, Nance has been out.
Speaker 2 00:24:09 Yeah, but Val Juni also played 28. Remember when they were doing this last year? Yeah. Remember they were starting Jackson Hayes next to Val Junis.
Speaker 1 00:24:17 Yes.
Speaker 2 00:24:17 Could they just, maybe they just do that. You're right. Did
Speaker 1 00:24:21 Ion play in that game against so Casey?
Speaker 2 00:24:23 No, he didn't. Yeah, no, they played.
Speaker 1 00:24:26 So that's it. There was no Nance and there was no Zion. So Hayes had to get some minutes.
Speaker 2 00:24:31 Well, 28 is a lot of popcorn
Speaker 1 00:24:33 Minutes. Popcorn, popcorn machine it see, uh, see where, see if they played in the floor together at all.
Speaker 2 00:24:37 That's a, I mean, 20, like I agree. Where like you, they need him to play, but 28 minutes is not just like No, I agree. Putting 'em out there that's like, you're getting burnt. Um, so they started Marshall Herb, McCullum, Valentini Murphy, um, direct sub. Yeah. Jackson Hayes and Valentini played six minutes in the second, seven minutes in the second quarter together. Then they played eight minutes. Am I, am I looking at this wrong? Uh, they played, so they didn't play all that much. Val and Junis didn't play the final 13 minutes of the game and Jackson Hayes did.
Speaker 1 00:25:28 This is a matchup thing for them. Maybe O KC goes small,
Speaker 2 00:25:32 Probably. Right? Poku Shefsky played the last 13 minutes, 14 minutes of the game. So they played, um,
Speaker 1 00:25:38 Maybe they went, they liked hazed the ability to cover the range for Poku then show J Val probably.
Speaker 2 00:25:43 Yeah. Yeah. The, the o KC closed with their starting five, but I
Speaker 1 00:25:47 Mean like Miles Turner construction floor. So maybe Hayes is a, is a good spot regardless tonight. But yeah, I think Na na Nance has to be out and then we just see what the starting lineup looks like. So,
Speaker 2 00:25:57 And dance if Nancy is in, dude. Ooh, that's an
Speaker 1 00:26:01 Interesting spot. Yeah. Na if dance plays tonight for sure. Cuz they're not gonna, they don't really have. So, um, yeah, so again, the Power Forward position has some guys, I think Beto at 49 is interesting. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Naja Marshall for sure. As we talked about. General, is it Sohan? Is that what
Speaker 2 00:26:16 It's Sohan? Yeah, it's Sohan.
Speaker 1 00:26:17 Sohan. Hi Smith. We talked about, uh, ne Smith if he starts again. He's been playing really well. I think we'll be in on, uh, there a bit also. Um, anybody else for you here?
Speaker 2 00:26:28 No, I was looking through. Um, I don't think so. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:26:33 Obviously if starting lineups and and stuff like that happens, we'll, you know, we'll have updates throughout the day. Uh, at the center position here, VQ is your top price center then going up against Houston at 75. Uh, again, these, this seven k arrange for him lately. 47, 50, 36, 43. So, uh, willing to pay the 7,500 here. Um, if you want to go there again, I know there's, uh, Houston just a really good matchup for everybody. Yep. In this game. Uh, a seven K Go Bear. I'm a big fan of here up against whomever. No. Heisman Robinson. Like,
Speaker 2 00:27:06 Yeah, I think Heisman is six six too. So like Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:27:09 Right. We, we were trying, remember we were trying to figure out who was gonna play center for them.
Speaker 2 00:27:12 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:27:13 We trying to do it by height and we're like, none of these guys are taller than like a butler, you know, like, um,
Speaker 2 00:27:19 Uh, yeah. Colbert's. Yeah, I agreed.
Speaker 1 00:27:22 Yeah. So, uh, yeah, Gobert seven K could grab a billion rebounds today. Uh, Valentini as we talked about, if everybody's out could be very interesting here.
Speaker 2 00:27:32 Oh, it's, he's, I I feel the let down, huh? Dude,
Speaker 1 00:27:36 You know what's a let down was San Antonio's match. I tweeted, I was like, if Zion and are out, uh, he either, the last 10 games, he went over 27 and a half, uh, points and rebounds. He finished at 26 points and rebounds. He had two fouls going into halftime and picked up three fouls within the first like eight minutes of the second of the third quarter. And that was, you know, that was Curtains
Speaker 2 00:28:01 Can't make that up for, uh, you
Speaker 1 00:28:02 Can't make that up for, for j val there, uh, basically didn't play got sub back in the final three minutes of that game cuz it, it got close and he never even touched the ball. So, uh, super sad.
Speaker 2 00:28:14 Uh, um, 25% usage rate by the way for, um, Valentini without Ingram. I I just took Ingram and Zion off the floor. Yeah. Just to see like 25 and a half percent usage rate. 1.13 for Joe Val. So pretty good numbers. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1 00:28:27 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Um, big game for San Goon lately. Again, if you can stay outta foul trouble, you know, we know he, we know he can be this guy
Speaker 2 00:28:35 So good. He's so good. Just give the guy, just give him run.
Speaker 1 00:28:39 Constantly inconsistent though. Yep. Um, can't play,
Speaker 2 00:28:42 But it's also a minutes thing. Like why are we, uh, I could, you know, I could just, uh, it's just like why are we not giving this guy more run? I agree. You know, like look at, look at what he does when he is on the floor. What
Speaker 1 00:28:54 Are we doing? He hasn't been, what are we doing with Ur? What's Urman? It's 22, 27. 2321.
Speaker 2 00:28:59 That's
Speaker 1 00:28:59 So horrifying. Two of them are foul trouble related. Houston in Denver foul out of Denver in 21 minutes. Five and two, like one foul against O KC in a two point game. He played 23 minutes.
Speaker 2 00:29:10 Yep. Take I think people are, I mean that's a, it isn't that funny. Second time in a row we've seen, uh, traditional center taken off the floor when PO is Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:29:19 Yeah. Could be. It could be the case. But I mean this is Charlotte. We love Senator against Charlotte.
Speaker 2 00:29:25 It's uh, it's a tournament situation. Yeah. I mean he's going to get you 24 fantasy points right as a floor and if he plays 30 minutes, he gets you 30 plus. But will he play 30 minutes? Possibly. It's miles. It's Mason Plumley. Like that's, he's a traditional center and he plays
Speaker 1 00:29:43 Shouldn't even play in that first game against, uh, Charlotte. So
Speaker 2 00:29:47 I I think he's fine for tournaments, but like to trust him in cash is, is is a little too wild for me. Okay.
Speaker 1 00:29:55 Would you play Collins on the, uh, not Collins, uh, plum on the other side of that matchup? 59
Speaker 2 00:30:00 Probably this, this tier, but this tier is so crazy cuz like Sagoon 62 tournaments, UR tournaments, Walker
Speaker 1 00:30:09 Ke Kesler 54, no alone.
Speaker 2 00:30:11 Dude, I love Walker. Kessler Fi finally had like the say NFL trouble play 30 minutes, look what I could do. Game. Yep.
Speaker 1 00:30:18 14. And now San Antonio has been, we talk about Houston, I mean in Charlotte a lot. Uh, San Antonio has been, I think the best this year against for centers. So, um, you know, really a really strong spot here. Uh, for point,
Speaker 2 00:30:32 No, no, char Charlotte Retook. Charlotte retook John, I'm looking at D V P. You're uh, Kessler's second best spot on the board, nor still number one. Yeah, so they re they retook their throne.
Speaker 1 00:30:43 Okay. I saw, I yolk at, I still think Walker Kessler is probably the center. Are we on here? Um, would
Speaker 2 00:30:49 You play him in cash? Yep.
Speaker 1 00:30:51 Play him in cash. Play him in tournament. Yeah,
Speaker 2 00:30:52 No. Would you, would you?
Speaker 1 00:30:53 Yeah. Yeah. I would,
Speaker 2 00:30:54 The only, I'm just so worried about this guy Foul. So
Speaker 1 00:30:57 Rookie senator then Jalen Duran 52. Walker Kessler at, at 54.
Speaker 2 00:31:02 I'm gonna pick Kessler. I'm gonna pick Kessler. I I think Duran's in a good spot too. I think he has. I think Kessler has more upside than Duran though.
Speaker 1 00:31:10 Yeah, I would, I would agree. Duran not a big scorer. Uh,
Speaker 2 00:31:15 And the block shots for Kes, the block shots go to Kessler too. Block Kessler's a machine.
Speaker 1 00:31:19 Duran is just a rebounder really at
Speaker 2 00:31:21 This point. Yes. Freak freak. And uh, I dunno if you saw the note Bagley questionable. Yes. So that could, that could give Duran a a nice bump too. 33, 34 minutes.
Speaker 1 00:31:30 Yeah. I mean he played 28 minutes against Philly and 28 minutes against Orlando by blowouts in both of those games in the more competitive games he was getting 30 plus, you know, he had that 19 rebound game against Charlotte, you know? Right. So, um, yeah, I I like that spot for him there. Uh, 52, let's see, Zak is 5k. He played 33 minutes the other day. 34 minutes. Does Zak see more minutes if there's no <laugh>? No Leonard, I mean,
Speaker 2 00:31:57 Dude, it's gonna be, I mean this, it's just like doesn't end.
Speaker 1 00:32:01 They've, well they've something two men to play center, right? Like, like going small ball. So been a, been a weird split there. Uh, Eubanks has been getting some run here 27 minutes against Denver. Obviously that was a foul out game, um, against, uh, for, for, uh, Urch there. But, uh, yeah, back in the rotation 20 32, 20, 27 minutes, the last three interim. So
Speaker 2 00:32:26 Yeah, I think there's interesting value. Eubanks is interesting. Uh,
Speaker 1 00:32:31 Okay. Hayes at 35, of course
Speaker 2 00:32:32 Hayes. And then if, or Orlando, Robinson starts from Miami. The two times he's started, he's played 32 and 36 minutes and he had 30 or 26 and 35th. Yep. So like if he's starting, I know it's Gobert, but he's $3,200. I, I'm probably, I'm probably playing him.
Speaker 1 00:32:53 Yep. I agree with you. All right, let's build our lineup here. Uh, plug in McCollum.
Speaker 2 00:32:59 Yeah, I think McCollum and Paul George, I almost wanna say were like, but we don't have to go PG if we
Speaker 1 00:33:06 Don't No, I'm fine. I'm fine with McCullum and George. It's $5,400 a player. Still pretty good. Um,
Speaker 2 00:33:12 Naji Marshall.
Speaker 1 00:33:13 Yeah. Naji Marshall. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 2 00:33:15 Obviously
Speaker 1 00:33:15 It could be good a day where you play four Pelicans, right? Like
Speaker 2 00:33:18 Yeah. Yeah. That's the, I was gonna say that's the caveat. Like we could end up playing like a 3,100 Devonte Graham or a 3,800 Jose Alvarado, like who, you know, just considering what their lineup is. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1 00:33:32 I'm gonna throw Walker cast line at center.
Speaker 2 00:33:34 I'm done. Uh, I think Walker Casts is a, a very good play.
Speaker 1 00:33:37 Uh, $5,500 for a power forward guard, forward util um, let's see here. Where do we, um,
Speaker 2 00:33:48 You mean Sohan 45? Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:33:50 I I'm go Sohan here. I like Sohan at 45. So $5,900 for a guard forward in util Do you want to just game theory lineup with the value guy down here?
Speaker 2 00:34:00 I mean, I think so. I was, before we even knew the rest of the Pelicans news, I mentioned Jose Alvarado, like he's just been in their rotation. He's shown upside. I think he starts, I I think he's gonna start personally. I I think Alvarado
Speaker 1 00:34:17 Starts Do you like him, do you or do you like Hayes?
Speaker 2 00:34:22 I mean, I don't, I just don't know because if Nance plays is Hayes dead
Speaker 1 00:34:27 Or like, I don't think, I don't think so. Cuz they, their, their front court's gone no, her no Zion. Right. Like they need someone to play Power Forward Center. Yeah, I think Hayes is in the rotation no matter what.
Speaker 2 00:34:40 I You make that call. I'm I'm not, I'm just not certain on Jackson Hayes because he just hasn't played all year until
Speaker 1 00:34:51 Um, he has more upside than Alvarado does.
Speaker 2 00:34:54 Mm. Are we sure Alvarado scored 38 points in a game? Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:34:59 But I mean consistently when given the playing time, Jackson Hayes has been a higher output player. Alveras got TRAs, he just get steals and uh, and
Speaker 2 00:35:08 So, so funny you bring that up, um, with Ingram and Zion off the floor. I was looking at this before. Sure. 23% usage rate, one fantasy point per minute,
Speaker 1 00:35:19 But pretty good. That's not cause of scoring though, right? That's largely just due to I guess steels. I mean I think
Speaker 2 00:35:25 23, 20 3% user rate is pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:35:29 He's, but he doesn't, I I guess we
Speaker 2 00:35:31 Don't have to, if we wanna punt and not play Ho or if we don't wanna play Jose Tto I'm fine. I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm indifferent about Jackson Hayes. Sure. If Larry Nance place, I don't know how that's gonna ha because I think the depth is on the wing or the lack of depth would be more so on the wing. Sure. Where like then it would be on the front court. Cuz then you have, like you said, you could start Nance and Yeah, Hayes is gonna probably, I mean, you're right, you're probably right. You're, you're probably right. So if you wanna play Jackson Hayes, I'm I'm fine with it. It it, you're probably correct.
Speaker 1 00:36:08 Where, well no, they're the same price. Let's go Alvara first cuz you're, he probably does start as well. All right. That's se that's basically seven K for a Ford in New Utility. Um,
Speaker 2 00:36:19 It's pretty good.
Speaker 1 00:36:21 We can do, I mean we can do a DeRozen at 84 to get so against Houston.
Speaker 2 00:36:27 I was gonna say, does Norm can, does Norm get us to DN or Levine?
Speaker 1 00:36:33 I mean we kind of are already there, but let's see. Norm.
Speaker 2 00:36:35 That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 00:36:37 Norm at 52 as a forward $8,700 util play, uh, gets the Rosen Rosen marking in Irving. Is that, is that group there? I mean I I'm good with DDR
Speaker 2 00:36:48 Here. Yeah. If DDR probably against Houston. Yeah I think you said we're
Speaker 1 00:36:53 Getting that and that actually works out if Hayes starts. We just shift Powell to Guard dn, the Ford Hayes the utility, so. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:36:59 Yep. Perfect.
Speaker 1 00:37:00 That's perfect. And we have 300 left over so we'd have a $4,100 utility play. Um, if any other news happens to break, you know, and, and we can play around with some other value guys. So
Speaker 2 00:37:11 More, more Pelicans guys go on the Injury Airport
Speaker 1 00:37:14 Or Yeah. More Pelicans guys laying on the injury report here. Cuz I mean like I don't if if like N's out right as well, you know, I would probably figure out a way to get Valentini in into my lineup as well. Right, right. And yep. Rearrange, you know, some of that, you know, probably go down from De Rosen up from Kessler to Valentini and find a new youth tail play. So
Speaker 2 00:37:35 Yeah, I agreed. Um,
Speaker 1 00:37:37 So that's the lineup we're going with right now at least. Uh, Dylan is on your playbook here today. Uh, if you have any questions, James and I will be in the Discord. You can also catch James tonight, today five to seven on the Better Sports Network. Uh, it's free, you have to go download, you can join the show I'm filling in this week, all week for, uh, Fe and Ronis. Well Howard is on vacation as well. So, uh, if you wanna check out the Better Sports Network app, again free to download, you can follow it over on Twitter as well. Uh, James and I will be there five to seven. We're gonna talk about this slate. So all the updated news, you know, uh, we're, we're gonna have, we're going into roster lock in the second hour of that show, so, uh, tune into that as well. Uh, if you want to get all the, a slate breakdown, you know, a live stream actually, James mm-hmm. <affirmative>, what race gonna be running here for the hour or two of this N B a, uh, for this slate today. So check that out. Uh, James and I will be around in, in Discord in on Twitter and we will catch you guys later.